Should Sergio AGÜERO be selected for the Argentina team at the Copa America?

1. If Scaloni chooses Benedetto over Aguero for the Copa America, he should DEFINITELY be SACKED!

   That’s like choosing Armani over Romero, or Pinola over Otamendi, etc.

   If Aguero isn’t there, Messi will have to carry the team and we’ll be back to Square 1!
   And if neither Messi or Aguero aren’t there, I’ll still watch for the sake of my country but in all honesty we’ll be lucky to make it to the Quarter-Finals.

   • You see, this article is written because Aguero is the cause of our Swiss cheese defense and mediocre midfield in the World Cup, not to mention our amateur insane coach Sampaoli. If this is really an argument to bring the best striker in the world at the moment or some primera player we need to have our heads examined.

     • voice of reason.

       They continue ignoring the porous defense, bad mid, and insane sampaoli and instead blame Aguero! i just don’t get it..seems so obvious.

       btw, “swiss cheese defense” is really funny.

2. You need an entire article about this question? Let’s see, should we bring the most in form striker from one of the best clubs in the world who is playing some of the best football of his career and is at the height of his ability to a competition we haven’t won in years?
   The short answer is simple. If you don’t bring him and start him, whoever makes that decision needs to be fired immediately. Then you wonder what happened to this sight. We even debate the most basic shit anyone can see. And yes, water is wet my friends.

   • If the equation was as simple as club performance = national team performance, then your rant would make all the sense in the world. However, it’s not as simple as that. Water is most certainly wet but your logic is not airtight 🙂

     • It’s a combination of club and national team performance. Many opposers keep referencing club as if that’s the only thing he’s done well in while ignoring recent great performances at the WC18. The guy is on fire right now. Beyond me how any one can consider dropping him. Although it’s not beyond the stupidity of the AFA and Mr Training Wheels. Hope theyll have sanity and good judgement left and call this man up!

       • Hey! You have to respect these well known and wise sports journalists here on Mundo. After all, they know exactly what they’re talking about!

         I mean, not calling up Messi, Aguero, Romero, Otamendi, etc who play in some of the biggest clubs in the world, to an international major competition in the backyard of one of our biggest rivals, to instead give a chance to youth playing in mediocre clubs across Europe and in Argentina?

         It almost makes TOO much sense!

         • If Aguero is excluded for the sake of ‘off the ball movement’ of Benedetto then please include me over Benedetto. I can run off the ball zigzag or straight to give space thought i believe opposition defenders are stupid enough to mark me or Benedetto only to give space messi the GOAT…

     • Yes and your logic would indicate the reason we lose is because of Aguero’s performance and not of the mediocre at best midfield or our Swiss cheese defense. Yes, aguero gave up all those goals against France.

       • That’s a bit of a straw man, don’t you think? I never said anything about midfield, defense or Aguero giving up any goals.

3. Will be a big test for Paredes tonight. He will face Pogba, Herrera and Matic. PSG lost 4 of their starters, will be tough for them.

   • I doubt whether tuchel will include him in playing 11 ,let’s pray that he will

     • too risky with so little playing time, zero cohesion with the others

   • So far Veratti is rumoured to start, even tough he’s half fit.

   • Neymar + Cavanni and who are the other 2?

4. First casuality for march friendlies? German Pezella is injured. Could be out for 1 month. If he is out then time for Foyth to step up.

   • oh jeez…here we go. Wonder who will play belong Ota..will it be Foyth, Funes Mori, Kanneman, or Mammana?

     Id like to see Foyth or Mammana give it a go..

5. U16 team won the UEFA youth championship…….. https://www.tycsports.com/nota/seleccion-argentina/2019/02/11/la-seleccion-sub-16-campeona-del-torneo-de-desarrollo-uefa.html

6. a thing of the past… dinosaur for NT sake… Plz give him the luxury of watching Copa from home.
   .
   Since Messi returns Aguero returns for Copa too.

7. He was sharp in Russia
   It wasn’t his fault our management and system were bad just like we can’t blame Messi for that mess we can’t blame kun for it either
   Bring him in and the the lads

8. The way I see it, The only thing that will prevent Aguero from participating in COPA19 is injury.
   Even If he does not score any goal until the end of the season.

   from a footballing point of view, there is not any striker in Argentina that can be better than him within 3 months.

   I talk to many friends who are not Argentina supporters but follow football everyday, and I talk to them about posts and comments I see here, they ALL laugh at the idea of replacing Aguero with Icardi or Martinez.
   I am talking about The coming COPA not after 5 years.

   • Its beyond asinine. Not only our friends laugh and mock (ive had the same reaction) but every sports journalist, manager and staff, scouts, etc on planet earth would dream to have a guy like Aguero in his current form play for the NT.

9. i want to make something clear to all friends in this forum about myself.

   Personally i believe that Argentina national team should be playing the system 4-3-3.

   with that system we arrive to world cup final of 2014 ,with that system we arrive to 2 Copa america finals
   and with that system we accomplish historically from 2006 good things.
   whenever we try something different the result was disaster.

   FOR ME the matter is not how our coach (whoever that be every time) will fit all the “big names” or
   the glamorous names in the team. to find one way/system for use them all.

   FOR ME the matter is our coach (whoever that be every time) TO FIND THE CORRECT PLAYERS TO USE in that system.
   i don t care who is playing and where.
   i don t care how glamorous name he has.
   i don t care so much how many goals he score in his club.

   I CARE ONLY if that player fit in that system and if he can perform in that system well.
   if he is not perform well then he will be replaced by another that can do the job well.
   whoever he is and whatever he has done in his club IF HE DON T FIT HE WILL BE REPLACED.

   simple as that.
   this is my philosophy and this is my map about all my posts in this forum.
   i don t hate any player. i don t hate old ones and i don t hate young ones.
   i don t hate anybody.

   i posted in past in this forum with this philosophy
   i am posting in this forum with this philosophy and i will post and in future with the same philosophy.

   to all my friends here.

   • Cox4, is there such thing as “pecho frio” according to you?

     • im intrigued, where is this question going?

       • You wanna give it a shot? Be my guest. Go ahead and answer the question 🙂

         • (Personally, I really can’t stand the term and I think people that use it are simply horrible and outright nasty)

           Pecho Frio has characteristics of a “self fulfilling prophecy”. It’s almost like the more fans use it, the more likey the NT performances will suffer. For example: Penalty kicks are a coin toss, involving luck and confidence. There nothing we can do about luck but confidence is certainly within the fanbase control. If players didn’t feel like fans would start throwing verbal poop at them with Pecho Frio, choker, whistling, name calling, booing, scathing articles, embassing comments on live TV (tyc), etc and instead believed their supporters would welcome and praise them even after a loss, their confidence would increase and would do a lot better under pressure. Also, it’s insulting to think these players have no heart or passion. Asinine really. In some ways, I don’t agree with how its used but there are also situations where the player simply fucked up but that still doesn’t mean we should cast stones…everyone loses..nobody wins. I think we would be better off if the term was eradicated.

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           Here’s a interesting article on the term, I didn’t know it was started by an artist and was meant for fans 😀. remezcla.com/features/sports/argentina-world-cup-pecho-frio-russia-2018/

           “Argentinian soccer players are used to hearing insults both on and off the pitch. Being called names? No big deal. Nasty insults about their mothers? Ugly, but it comes with the territory. But there’s one insult that no player can let stand. It’s an accusation that hurts so much it can affect their performance: being called a pecho frío.

           A pecho frío (a term that literally means ‘cold-chested’) is a player who doesn’t have the passion to face the challenge of a big game and underperforms when needed the most. It’s where lack of heart meets choking on the field, with a touch of cowardice. The phrase is so offensive, that when the fans started to chant it to Racing Club’s coach Eduardo “Chacho” Coudet (formerly a player) at a game in 2015, he turned around and replied, “Cuckold, maybe. But pecho frío, NO.” His response became so popular that one fan tattooed the phrase on his arm.

           Ironically, this insult that fans use to shame players, was originally meant for them. The expression was coined by Newell’s Old Boys coach Jorge Raúl “El Indio” Solari in 1987, after the team lost the championship to their hated crosstown rivals Rosario Central. “You can’t ask more of this young team. They gave it all,” he told the local media. “The ones we should demand more enthusiasm from is la cabecera [the main group of supporters from the north stands.] They are pechos fríos. It’s very important to have a fanbase that cheers you on and supports you. If they’d changed [their attitude] instead of insulting us during the championship, Newell’s would have won by six or seven points.”

           Solari’s choice of words quickly transcended the club and was adopted by other fans to mock their rival’s supporters. Somewhere along the way, the tables turned and pecho frío became the preferred way to insult a player. But perhaps no one has been a bigger target of the insult than the Argentinean national team, which has lived with the burden of being called pecho fríos for more than four years. With the World Cup just a few days away, the team’s goal is not only to bring home the trophy, but to shake off the dreaded label.

         • paging @ebo

           Check out above article..origin of “pecho frio”. i dont know if true though but i found it interesting.

         • @choripan

           I have researched the term ‘pecho frio’ few months ago and came to the same understanding that you describe above.
           Cold chested i.e. cold hearted. Specifically means what you said above.

           What I don’t understand is that how players who are accused of being ‘pecho frio’ cry their heart out when losing or winning?

           How could they take insults,abuse,humiliation …etc and still show up for NT duty and travel half way around the world to help their country while risking to suffer injuries that would affect their careers?

           There are many many counter arguments to players being ‘pecho frio’ , but blind hearts will always be blind and stripped from being humanistic which is perception,recognition and appreciation of others.

10. I love Kun and I think he should be in copa as Icardi’s sub and like I said before whether it’s kun, Icardi, Lautaro or Batistuta, it won’t matter unless there is a functional midfield that creates chances for the chosen 9.
    Regarding kun, he’s never let argentina down…WHEN HE WAS FIT. In 2011 copa he saved the team from embarrassment, he was amazing in the WCQ2014, he was excellent in copa 15 and one of the few who could hold their head up high in 2018 WC.
    I keep seeing people say that pipita was always picked ahead of him and that’s simply not true:

    -2010 WC pipita started
    -2011 Copa neither pipita nor kun started, it was rather tevez and lavezzi
    -2014 WC Both kun and pipita started
    -2015 Copa Kun started
    -2016 Copa pipita started (remember that kun came in with a knock to his ankle)
    -2018 WC kun started

    As you can see it was quite even between the 2.

    • @mamuoun elpipita
      Mate to be honest you re
      One of those that I look forward
      To read thier comments but
      Please don’t talking about icardi
      As our main strike the guy is not
      Mobile enough you know football
      Move on from those kinda strike
      Modern football require from the
      Strikes in terms movement hold up
      The ball pressing more scores
      And we know icardi …….
      Put this way if we play Messi
      Dybala and icardi we won’t many
      Matchs trust me we can’t afford
      To have too many luxury players.

      Come to aguero point
      For me I love the guy
      We know he is world class player
      I believe he done ok for
      The Nt up to now but my point
      Is this if scaloni call di maria
      Macerdo otamendi Romero
      There is no point leave out
      Aguero than .

      My personal choice is l Martinez
      I believe he will be world class
      Next few years he has all the
      Attribute to be top strike
      It better to give me more chance .

      • Copa is in a few months..if Martinez is going to develop in few years, he may not be the best option right now. We need to win, not use Copa as a training ground or glorified friendly.

        • Choripan
          Bro I got your point
          I can’t argue against kun
          Coz he is world class plus
          He did more than ok in the
          Past but I can’t stand for
          Old guard no more cos they
          played few tournament
          I want new blood and fresh
          Ideas however if l Martinez
          Is not going to be our starter in copa .
          And it’s comes down to icardi and
          Kun aguero it’s no brainer
          Has to be kun .
          By the way please don’t call us
          Haters bro you can call me
          Batistuta generation as I call you
          Messi followers that is joke
          Anyway but hate is strong word
          I believe all of us want to see
          Argentina to win but we differ
          Our opinions that is why I like
          Mundo a lot I really thankful
          The guys who great this web

          • i think people are getting the wrong idea of what a “hater” means. First, don’t take it too serious, its more tongue and cheek (*a joke).

            Second, people are taking the word literally…like i personally hate Donald Trump. That is true hatred, the guy is an insane megalomaniac. Absolute racist scum. I hate him and i wish horrible things upon that disgusting man.

            The aguero situation is not the same all. I’m not saying you guys HATE him as i hate Trump.

            A “hater” can be used more casually to describe people that are trying to knock someone down a notch. I’ll use gonzalo claim as an example (sorry Gonzalo my friend but this example helps clarify). He said that Di Maria’s goal was lucky and Agueros goal was only possible because France started to relax and eased up on defense. Everyone knows Di maria goal was talent and Agueros goal was certainly not because France went easy (it was due to positioning and messi chemistry). Instead of acknowledging something positive, it was only said to diminish and knock them down a notch. It’s a lose lose situation – no matter how good it was, there is literally nothing that can please the person. It doesn’t mean Gonzalo personally hates these guys, that is too strong but he’s certainly looking to say anything negative, just to tarnish and put down Aguero. (also Gonzalo has said some positive things, its not all negative)

            Cox4 on the other hand made a statement saying he doesn’t want Aguero because strategically / tactically, he’d prefer a tall strong ox-like striker that suites his idea and formation better. That is NOT an example of a “hater”. Thats just strategic differences, nothing wrong with that.

            I hope you and others that feel insulated by this understand the difference. Again, its more of a joke term, dont take it too serious.

            (btw, someone that always talks shit about youngsters and never sees or says anything positive, can be labeled as youngster hater lol.)

          • Fair enough bro respect
            But we must know when we
            Log in here and express our
            Opinions we must accept that
            Some peopl will agree some
            Will disagree plus when we
            Criticise a player we must be fair
            Weather he is from old guard or
            Young.
            i can honestly say some
            Of us were bit too much
            About aguero the guy is just
            Behind messi and batigol
            When It comes the Nt top
            Scores For me I have big respect
            Cuz I love watching epl and
            As Argentina fan he make me
            Proud that he is already legend
            In EPl.

11. I love Kun and I think he should be in copa as Icardi’s sub and like I said before whether it’s kun, Icardi, Lautaro or Batistuta, it won’t matter unless there is a functional midfield that creates chances for the chosen 9.
    Regarding kun, he’s never let argentina down…WHEN HE WAS FIT. In 2011 copa he saved the team from embarrassment, he was amazing in the WCQ2014, he was excellent in copa 15 and one of the few who could hold their head up high in 2018 WC.
    I keep seeing people say that pipita was always picked ahead of him and that’s simply not true:

    -2010 WC

    • Sorry everybody, double post

12. Only a fool can leave best striker in the world at his career best from of season in home, i believe Argentina can’t do this with messi roommate

13. Choripan

    just because somebody have different idea about one player for you means that he hates him?
    really i don t understand you my friend.
    i would not say anything normally but i speak now to you because i respect you and your opinions because long time ago in this forum with your posts you earn my respect.

    well i am one of those people that i don t want Aguero in squad. at least not as starter.
    my reason is one and simple.
    he is not fit to my plan about how i believe the team should play.

    i believe Argentina should playing with 4-3-3 system.
    the 3 forward should be with 2 fast in transition wingers.
    Aguero can play only in center of 3. he is not good in wings and it is proven in national team.
    but if i use Aguero in top i lose in high and in power against tall strong defenders.

    we need a striker taller and stronger about body as it is Icardi or Benedetto.
    i choose Icardi as starter.
    in wings together with him fit about what i have in my brain Messi and Pavon.
    or Messi and one other player with the style of Pavon.

    so right or wrong this is my personal opinion about how i believe our national team is better to play.

    so if you think that i hate Aguero just because he is not fit to my idea then ok you are free to believe it.
    friendly.

    • Yes, I also can’t understand that easy accusations of “hate” and wrote about that below Choripan’s post.

    • Well icardi can play on wings? he is so immobile every times he plays for argentina he gets isolated from midfield. Recently i was going through some comments from inter milan fan they are even not happy with the recent performance of icardi like if he doesnt score then its like playing with 10 men.
      Benedetto is the similar player as gonzalo higuain with 1/4 of his ability and we had suffered enough with higuain so do we need another bad version of higuain(benedetto) or a sharp striker like aguero who can score and who can create chances with his dribbling ability.So whats your point man?
      Wingers bro Argentina dont have pacy and skillful wingers and even fullbacks. Pavon he is not qualified enough to play in NT.

      • i didn t say that i want use Icardi in wings. he can t play there.
        i said to use him in center forward together with Messi and Pavon.

        i can respect if you have other different idea how we should play.
        no problem.
        just i refuse somebody to call me Aguero hater just because i have one other opinion.

        about the last you said personally i have very big expectations and hopes about
        future from Pavon and Benedetto.
        i totally disagree with you about them.
        especially for Pavon.
        but we don t have to agree of course each other.
        every opinion is respected from me.

        • Hope pavon proves me wrong because we badly need a player of his position . I am still optimistic about pavon but What i had seen i would take aguero and lautaro as no 9. I personally dont like icardi and he recent form is also not satisfying because if a player like icardi doesnt score he is useless.

      • Hey man, you simply know nothing about Benedetto. Benedetto 1/4 of Higuain?!
        It’s exactlt opposite.
        Ok, he didn’t score yesterday for Boca but see just one little example of yesterday’s game how skilfull he is. Watch 3:40-3:58:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5heVl39oL9s&t=241

        • Or that goal and many of his others golazos:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZYBF8vJAAk

        • Not talking about last match he has scored only 2 goals in last 6 matches and one of them was penalty not a good stats for a striker.

          • If he was scoring myriads of goals then you argument would be: it doesn’t matter because he is doing that in poor local league.

            He is scoring most important goals in COpa Libertadores

    • 3-4-1-2 formation is most suitable for argentina.
      Romero
      Mammana. Pezella. Otamendi
      Paredes. Ascacibar
      Banega. Locelso
      Messi
      Dybala. Aguero.

      • the biggest disasters in our history was every time we played with 3 defenders in back line.

        2002 world cup and game against Croatia in last world cup
        the most easy to remember from use system with 3 back.

        • i really like 3AT because it allows and extra mid or attacker to play but we dont have the right defenders. it has been a disaster in the past.

        • You may be true but this time scenario is different paredes, locelso, banega,ascacibar all can defend.

      • Ota and Pezzella are way too slow

      • Lanzini instead of banega…

      • Your 3412 is totally unbalanced, no winger back to block each side. You put Pezzella and Otamendi both non fast CB. No fast player to break lines and the attack will be too concentrated in the middle.

    • mr cox,

      My friend….not all criticism is created equal (**todas las criticas no son creadas iguales). It’s perfectly fine to criticize and have different opinions. Your criticism is strategic…for example: you say we need a tall imposing #9 like Icardi or Benedetto. Thats a fair concern about Aguero and it’s also very different than a lot of the criticism from the hater brigade.

      • @cox4 did you see this response?

    • My friend, You can always use a lone striker in a narrow 4 3 2 1 (christmas tree formation which is still a 4 3 3), where the LF and the RF fall back few steps behind the striker and keep the play narrow and make it easier to link with midfield and force the opponent to play wide when recovering the ball. The opponent will have to cover more players at the center because the LF and the RF will be playing in a position where it makes it easier for them to shoot on goal, while wing backs can over lap because you are not using pure wingers

14. the fact that people eating the cheese and believe that just because Aguero is super with his club
    that means that he will score dozens of goals with the national team too really never stop to amaze me.

    i find this thing komik anymore.

    • Bro nobody can score dozens of goals if your midfielders are not well oiled enough to feed them what do you expect from a striker , should he himself created his chances what have i seen aguero very rarely miss chances look at the WC even in very limited chances with worst midfield he scored 2 goals.
      But it took 8 matches for icardito open his
      account. Ciro Ferrara himself said i would not offer icardi a contract renewal looking his current form.
      https://sempreinter.com/2019/02/11/ciro-ferrara-i-wouldnt-give-icardi-a-contract-renewal-at-inter-right-now/

    • My friend, how could you make a decision to call players?
      What is the criteria for coaches around the world to call players for any national team?

      • It seems Argentine media and people put pressure on manager to pick home based players like benedetto or meza… I am shocked a bit.

15. calling for Benedetto over Aguera is a complete joke.
    allready we have Aguera,Icardi,Lawtaro
    if Lawtaro out ,Benedetto in….then ok

16. I always loved KUN and yet wanted to choke him many times over……..WHY??
    Ridiculous fragility.
    NOT SHOWING up for his country, whether a fair or not assessment but that’s how it seemed.
    Lack of goals and effort.
    Nonchalant attitude.
    Should he be included on the Copa squad? HELL YES.
    and that was my attitude before this season even started because I saw a different Kun in the WC from the one we had gotten accustomed to in the past.
    He was lively, aggressive, healthy and scored when given a chance and would have probably done more in the France game had he started.

    • yeah….I think most of us have seen a different Kun. He has transformed for the better and most criticism in the past does not apply to Kun today.

17. Fernando Batista’s late appointment and the squad having little time together there are certainly positives to take and now the Albiceleste must prepare for Poland.

    From golazoargentina

18. kuns club record is incredible at epl level, at champs level is average but for the n.t in 88 caps and 39 goals we find that over half of his goals are in friendlies.

    at club level having the best of the best surrounding you helps to many players these days (cr is a good example) and this makes them seem better then they are actually are, we have teams that have cost 100s of millions to assemble, the days of the bati staying at fiot are gone, the best are always moving to the biggest and highest paying clubs, I digress and back to kun…

    for me at n.t leverl in the last few games he has looked far more hungry (to many times in the past he would come on and appear to amble about hardly breaking a sweat) this copa would be his last chance to prove he can do for the n.t what he does every week for his club-yes I would take him but failures this time and its over for him at n/t level but success…..then he can look to another w.c perhaps?

19. Finally a good news
    Argentina u16 become the champion of the UEFA development tournament!!!
    Vamos Argentina 😊😊😊

    • We beat Netherlands in last game 3:1

      • Great future ahead.
        Now we need a good european coach for our national team, as well as a world class gk & wc Left footed cb

    • Also in U-16 category Velez Sarsfield was the team which contributed most players to squad.

20. Again the dirty politics is going on in argentina association . Leaving aguero would be a very big mistake scaloni would do.
    Anyway surprised to see haters are minority here.

    • So, when old guard is called up again and again for every tournament, there’s no dirty politics, friends club or any such thing. But when one of the guard is at risk not to go for Copa that’s mean some dirty politics out there…

    • Yeah we said the same thing on Cantona, Ginola, Raul and Benzema, we know the outcome

21. Super kun…Now time for blast forr the national team.every time he was ignored by the coach bcoz of Higuen.Now want to see him in best 11
    Best wishes for copa 2019

    • Higuain was never better scorer than kun but was simply chosen because of his off the ball movement.

      • One higuain was enough for argentina’s debacle we dont need another one in the name of benedetto we need a sharp striker like aguero who doesnt miss his chanes especially in big games.

22. The key of Kun’s recent successful performance with his club is the tactics used by Guardiola which consists of possession football and use of very specific profile of players, very similar to Barca 2009-2013. The whole system turns around the false 9 who’s Kun.

    Can Argentina play possession football? Yes there are good players but will take years to achieve that level, probably 4-5 years, maybe even more, which means kun will be at least 34 years old. And before that don’t expect any miracle. Does it worth to invest so much on a player? It means developing 1 system with specific players and changing radically the playing style for someone who will be 34 in 4 years. Another problem, this Guardiola system requires the 2 wingers heavy responsibility including breaking the lines, staying on their side and running for km. I don’t see Messi will run for Kun. Both of them are kind of half 9 with Messi slightly skewed on the right, I think that’s why it never worked.

    • Spot on.

    • Exactly what system do we have now? Exactly how do we score goals? Does anyone know that? Does even Scaloni know? Be it Icardi, Simeone or, Lautaro, how many clear chances did they get to score under Scaloni?

      • And that is why while the majority of us here clamour for Kun’s inclusion, we should also not lose sight of the bigger picture – what system are we playing? From the time Scaloni has taken over, other than calling up fresh faces, has he found a core team as yet?

        • Specifically on Kun, like what some of you have observed and pointed out, I too noticed that he was much sharper during the Russia WC. While one can say he’s surrounded by good players in Man City, haven’t there also been cases where good strikers still struggle to score despite having the same good players supporting them? While the other “oldies” and “promising” ones we took to Russia have faded away since then, Kun has kicked on and continued to bang in the goals. This is not about if Higuain is on form and whether should we take him – I dare say most of us won’t – or even a ADM playing superbly day in day out – an argument probably on the margin. This is Kun scoring goals and in the form of his life and I should think that that should earn him a call-up at the very least! Whether he plays or not is then down to link-up play, formation and tactics, etc. We can still try out Icardi, L Martinez heck even Dybala as starters but the moment they are not linking up and scoring they should be subbed. No offence to Benedetto but if it was between him and Kun, I’d go with Kun.

23. Good to see the hater vote is just a minority, fringe case at best. Let’s hope Training Wheels Scaloni has some sense left. I’ve read the oppositions comments ad nauseum and while there is some truth, many are not applicable, irrationale, distorted, and / or pretty weak. I keep hearing there is no evidence but its akin to the climate change denialists. A mountain of evidence is right in front of them yet they keep ignoring or spinning the truth..

    Summary of Hater comments:
    i) There is no evidence to suggest Aguero will do well in Copa –
    They are simply not looking. they see what they want to see. infected with bias and hatred.
    ii) Aguero does not have good chemistry with Messi: What about WC18..are you blind?
    iii) Historically, Agueros performances isn’t great X goals over Y minutes in his entire NT career: Irrelevant when he did well during the most important matches in the recent WC18
    iv) Other players contribute more to build up: Imagine leaving Batigol home because he didn’t contribute to build up. it’s also a complete lie btw, Aguero does help with build up, ignorance at its finest. Furthermore, we need a clinical striker, not another Higuain.
    v) Aguero had his chance: Completely arbitrary so i’ll reject it and say NO, he still has chances left.

    Here’s the way i see it (repost):

    1) Aguero performed incredibly well in the last WC. Easily one our best players.

    2) Aguero scored 2 goals in WC18.

    3) Messi and Aguero had good chemistry during the last WC. Not only did Messi assist Aguero goals but against all odds and under immense pressure, Messi and Aguero connected in the dying minutes against France almost scoring the 4th goal.

    4) Under Guardiola, Aguero has developed into a much more complete striker and contributes to pressing and defense, and build up play.

    5) Aguero is currently the most inform striker out of all our options.

    6) Aguero competes at the highest level is able tp play under immense pressure.

    7) Aguero is Argentinas most clinical striker atm.

    Overall, the most important performance indicators when assessing a player should be based on current form and contribution yet haters keep referencing performances from 2-4+ years ago WHICH IS COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS. Can you imagine any sane coaching staff taking a players 6 year average to assess whether or not to include him? Absurd. Aguero also finally had knee surgery last year which he was plagued with for years. During WC 14 he was really injured yet haters hold him an accountable.

    With corrective knee surgery and all the above, Aguero is the best available #9. Excluding him will be one the biggest mistakes Training Wheels Scaloni and idiot AFA can make. The 2nd spot should be go towards Benedetto, Martinez, or Icardi..whoever rises to the top.

    • Getting into this Man City squad is an achievement in itself, let alone playing week in week out and largely impacting City’s performance in big games. City STRUGGLE without him against big boys. They simply cant replace him.

    • CHoripan,

      Do you mean about me as one of those haters? I ask because I don’t know wheter I should answer for your post.

      • I’ve read that you think Aguero is unquestionably talented and that you don’t mind including him (*one of messi and aguero)…..however, when you say ludacris things like “Aguero only scored because France went easy”….that comment alone is indicative of your hate. Same thing with Di Maria, you said his goal was lucky and now Agueros goal was only because France went easy. Again, you have said some positive things and negative but please feel free to respond. Maybe i’ve missed something and im always open to alternative views.

        • “when you say ludicrous things like “Aguero only scored because France went easy”….that comment alone is indicative of your hate”

          Ludicrous thoughts still are rather far from hate to anyone. People are overusing the word “hate” they don’t know what’s that mean, how heavy is that accusation of have feeling of “hate” to anyone. The word is taken too light currently. It’s really hard to hate someone who is not part of your personal life like Aguero to me. I don’t hate anyone in my personal life and the more someone such abstract to my private life as Aguero.

          Here we have sometimes “enough” of some players. That’s better word. I have enough of Di Maria. My thoughts about Aguero are not that radical. I’m not one of those arrogant members who will tell you: we will not win Copa with Aguero for sure. I’m not prophet. But what I feel is serious doubts about him as right choice on No.9 position. I just don’t think so he will cooperate with Messi better than in past. I do not trust him.

          If it was all about his current club performances then he could be my first choice no doubt but context is different because I have engraven deep in mind Aguero being apathic in some crucial for us tournament moments. I have the feeling of constant ‘deja vu’: every time before every tournament we were so excited about Aguero’s goalscoring form in club. Me too. I remember myself how I was excited by him before WC 2014, commenting here that he is our Romario and posting YT videos showing the comparisons. After that WC he had yet more chances and things were not better. I’m simply disappointed. Most of poins you wrote above didn’t convinced me.

24. Aguero has not been terribly successful with NT compared to club forms, that true. However, there are 2 changes

    1. He is a different footballer now. This is pressure Pep put on him and he had to change. He is more involved with the overall play and build up. Much more involved in defending. This is one of the reason he was not so successful earlier. The changes in his game started reflecting in 2018 world cup with NT also. If he is called and played he will contribute much more and positively.

    2. He is doing better in terms of fitness. He is less injury prone.

    Based on the above, he should be in.

25. Scaloni must be insane to leave the current best striker at home for so called 28 years old youngstar Banadetto….
    He needs to fix the GK and defense position and find the right combinations
    Attack was never our problem unless after WC when we saw the team is inconsistent in scoring even in creating chances….
    Find the right combination for the defense and put Parades, Lo celso, Lanzini/Battigala in midfield and Di maria Messi and Aguero in up front and dybala, Icardi, Lautero as sub for these players..
    For the god sake never select Armani again in the Argentina team such a shitty GK i never see in my life..

26. Hello brothers and sisters, here Scaloni has to think twice before making such mistake of leaving Aguero. The Albiceleste is not politics where someone has to spend a certain mandate but coach has to select basing on forms of a player. Brothers if I’m lying God can punish me by now here in Kigali, Aguero is not on the same level with Benedetto, unless Benedetto there’s no any other South American point striker you can compare with Aguero. I always use to say this, if Aguero starts for the match against France in world cup we would win, the evidence is the smart goal of head he scored after substituting. Vamos Aguero. Angel Di Maria must also be included as starter. Be blessed friends I love you my fan mates.

27. Hello brothers and sisters, here Scaloni has to think twice before making such mistake of leaving Aguero. The Albiceleste is not politics where someone has to spend a certain mandate but coach has to select basing on forms of a player. Brothers if I’m lying God can punish me by now here in Kigali, Aguero is not on the same level with Benedetto, unless Benedetto there’s no any other South American point striker you can compare with Aguero. I always use to say this, if Aguero starts for the match against France in world cup we would win, the evidence is the smart goal of head he scored after substituting. Vamos Aguero. Angel Di Maria must also be included as starter.

28. I think the topic is already done. Around 150 comments in one of previous posts is enough. The poll is just mirrir of his popularity, so of course most will call for him but Scaloni will do decisions by himself so no need to agitprop.

    • Gonzalo do research on Batista ,whether he is good in developing players (bdw I am tired of his weird selection)

      • I think no one knows ATM wheter he is good in developing players. I saw some progress during the tournament so maybe there’s a hope. More than of developing players I’m afraid about him doing again weird selection before WC. Almendra, Balerdi, Cristian Ferreira are must players for me. And some names missed from COTIF like: Barreal, Ayala, Avila (the 17 yo CB gem defender just joined Boca). And maybe one of the popular ones like Barco, Garre. (but I’m not sure wheter they are that important). Maybe Maxi Lovera or Chancalay, Carranza.

        • This team may be the most balanced one after Saviola’s generation in 2001 if Almendra and Barco are here too. The fullbacks are a bit weak but for the rest there is at least 1 good player per position. Would love to see more often Almada.

29. He must be in starting eleven. Due to Higuain he didn’t get proper chance. He is in form of his life and only a fool manager can contemplate to exclude such in form player of his quality…

30. Do not judge a man by his past.He is nothing like that.He is new Aguero.
    He is becoming better than Messi

    • “He is becoming better than Messi”

      And Ansaldi is the best LB Argentina has. Right? 😂😂😂

      • Yeah better than Messi statistically and Yes Ansaldi is best LB Argentina has.NO DOUBT

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