Details on the Copa America 2019 in Brazil, Argentina and 11 others

1. why on earth does the REPLY feature disable on some comments, its on most but sometimes it disappears??

2. i dont understand why are some people taking name of Icardi ,he doesnt do shit with NT.

3. My copa XI
   Rulli – marcado otamendi pazella Tagliafico – lo celso Ascaliber parades- Messi Dybala – Icardi

   • Batigala instead of Ascaliber and Aguero instead of icardi depending on form

4. And people still talk about Di Maria, Otamendi and others as if in the last friendlies our newcomers totally disappointed. Was quite opposite so we don’t need back to people that cost us too much frustration in recent times.

   If Scaloni is consequent and consistent he will not call up the the players because the new ones show much more attractive football than the historical since 2 years.

   • Our “newcomers” beat the #112 ranked Guatemala … so if your life depended on it, much like the Argentinean national teams coach life does…. you will bring your best, older or not to win now… that’s why both Dimaria and otamendi will be here for the friendlies and Copa 2019. Otamendi will start and Dimaria would be a great substitute in minutes 67 with his pace, dribbling and passing abilities. Remember experience and youth, you have to have a mix.

     • Even if oldies lost WC, people will asko for them. If our youngsters didn’t beat Guatemala then oldies lovers would have said we need to bring oldies back. If they beat Guatemala they still will ask for that. If newcomers have played 2 good, promising games, with realy good impressions and understanding (after 2 games only!) they will still ask for oldies. Some people just expected to see Argentina lost to Colombia in poor style to may again ask for oldies. Neither lost nor poor style didn’t happen and they still call the historicall players.

       There’s never the good time to continue with youngsters.

       The fact we have not reason not to continue with Pezzella, Funes Mori duo as for now. Once again: they didn’t conceed a goal in the 2 friendlies and except 1-2 moments against Colombia kept our goal safe. There’s no reason to stick somewhere there now Otamendi. This goes for every position, except right wing and No.9 where no one impressed. The rest of line up Scaloni should keep with, at least till the moment some player will turn out not to be the right choice.

       • “Even if oldies lost WC, people will asko for them….There’s never the good time to continue with youngsters.”

         No one is calling for Masche, Biglia, Enzo, Fazio, Rojo, Banega, or Higuain. No one is calling for 70% of seniors. Not only have they aged but they lost form and that is what supporters are arguing. Player for the NT should be based on FORM (with future in mind), not solely age or seniority.

         Messi, Aguero, Otamendi (ADM too, but i hate to add since people are so divisive and it detracts from convo) are still world class and are in form. They are head and shoulders above the current roster. its almost insanity to not call them for Copa.

         “The fact we have not reason not to continue with Pezzella, Funes Mori”

         Agreed except FM needs to prove himself and right now, he’s a bit too shaky. Almost everyone see that he has issues and his spot shouldn’t be guaranteed. Let him fight with Otamendi to prove his worth. Or better yet, how about ALL players fight for their worth.

         I think the strongest XI, most INFORM are:

         Aguero – Messi

         Palacios – Paredes – Ascacibar – Lo Celso

         Tagliafico – Otamendi – Pezzella – ?

         Rulli or Armani or Romero

         • “Agreed except FM needs to prove himself and right now, he’s a bit too shaky”

           He proved himself already on last Copa America. Now he just need to regain his form after injury. One or two moments doesn’t make him shaky at all yet.

           “Messi, Aguero, Otamendi (…) they are head and shoulders above the current roster”.

           Messi of course but Aguero and especally Otamendi ?????

           Aguero in NT never was even close to the club level. You are hyping him after club performances. Yes, he wss solid/good in last WC but he did not nothing special behind the 2 goals. Was quiet. Looked like pure poacher. WHo knows, maybe even Simeone, having 3 starts in WC could have score for us the same number or goals.

           So please do not judge some players after club shows because some of they had 60-80 games in NT and, to be honest, still didn’t deliverd of expectations they created in club.

           To players like Di MAria or Aguero the clubs shows are not relevant long time. I thought it’s common truthe here.

           Otamendi never looked solid in NT behind COpa 2016. But there also Funes Mori was solid so why not take him and keep with Pezzella combo.

           Otamendi NT is unrelibale recently. Club form is another story here as well.

         • @Gonzalo posting here because your comments reply feature doesnt work.
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           you completely missed the point about FORM. I’m doubting FM because he’s just recovered for a year long injury and isn’t playing great for the NT and club, yet you reply “he proved himself last year”? No position should be “untouchable”. How is your view any different than those claiming the “oldies” should be guaranteed a spot? My point is that Otamendi – Pezzella – Funes Mori should all fight for 2 spots. Instead you’re saying 2 should be guaranteed. Doesn’t make any sense. Same with Aguero, i think Icardi will lead the front line but for now, he happens to play when Aguero came off a great world cup performance. Icardi – Aguero – Martinez should all fight for the spot, just the defenders and midfielders. Not sure why you’re against using players that are INFORM, and making players fight for the spot instead of being guaranteed. Form and competition often compliment each other.

         • @ Gonzalo posting here because your comments reply feature doesnt work.
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           you completely missed the point about FORM. I’m doubting FM because he’s just recovered for a year long injury and isn’t playing great for the NT and club, yet you reply “he proved himself last year”? No position should be “untouchable”. How is your view any different than those claiming the “oldies” should be guaranteed a spot? My point is that Otamendi – Pezzella – Funes Mori should all fight for 2 spots. Instead you’re saying 2 should be guaranteed. Doesn’t make any sense. Same with Aguero, i think Icardi will lead the front line but for now, he happens to play when Aguero came off a great world cup performance. Icardi – Aguero – Martinez should all fight for the spot, just the defenders and midfielders. Not sure why you’re against using players that are INFORM, and making players fight for the spot instead of being guaranteed. Form and competition often compliment each other.

5. BEST starting Xi for Copa america……..

   …………………Romero…………………………..

   Bustos…..pazzela…..otamendi…tagliafico.

   …………. battalgia/asciabar…………………..
   …………Messi………..lo celso……………………

   ….Pavon/laurato…………pity /lanzini/di ma

   ………………….Icardi……………………………..

6. Copa 23rd men squad should be like
   GK: Rulli Armani Romero
   DF: Otamendi pazella Tagliafico F.mori Bustos marcado, manama
   MF: Lo celso Ascaliber parades benega parera lanzini/lamela Batigala
   FW: Messi Aguero Icardi Dybala Dimaria corera/pavon

   • too early to be making up definitive squad lists for copa, alot of things can change in 9months.

     • true who knows an unknown name arrives and make into starting ci but at moment this is best 23rd squad available for Argentina

     • That is right it’s way to early to guess lin ups or squads

   • A Big NO to dimaria. his time is over. let him enjoy paris. Aguero, Otamendi , Romero & definitely Messi . Rest of Golden Gen – thanks for all the great moments . Inspite of the failures – i still will blame AFA for most of screw ups & not the players . But time for rebuild .

     • rebuild doesn’t mean let the players go. i cant believe im reading the words “definitely Messi” in my lifetime when it comes to excluding players. Its absouluey bat shit crazy.

       • Buddy, I meant except those 4, bye to rest of golden gen.
         Definitely Messi to continue with aguero, otamendi & romero in copa19. So pls relax.

     • Messi – some time in future. Romero ok. Aguero – only if Lautaro Martinez will not score in upcoming firendlies. Otamendi – no need. As far as Pezzella and Funes Mori didn’t failed together, having 2 starts along each other, it’s unfair to push there Otamendi now.

       • @ gonzalo – let FM & Pezella continue playing now. Mammana also shld get chances once back. But putting otamendi back by the time of copa19 is something needed.

         • I’m not against Otamendi but we should go for him only if it will be really needed, i.e. in the case if pair Pezzella – Funes Mori will prove in friendlies before Copa being not reliable. This goes also for Franco who impressed Scaloni on trainings.

     • Dimaria still better than farmers meza,pitty,carvi etc, as a supersub Di Maria will strengthen bench most importantly not many better options available for Argentina in Di Maria place plus experience also needed

       • pity martinez came out much better & sensible than di maria. Cervi still needs chances.

7. Copa 2019 is the easiest tournament ever to win it except Brazil no team has potential to beat Argentina unless played poorly, if Argentina comes with best squad in copa, Argentina will win it

8. As a Barcelona fan, it will be tough to choose them over Inter. Can never forget the immense contribution of that great team to Argentina National teams.
   Will yesterday’s performance improve Lamela’s position in the squad ?

   • i don’t think lamella did anything great in yesterday match. The assist was just a lucky tap. he is no where near form.

9. this time in yellow country we stick it to them!!!!

   • Brasil, decime qué se siente, tener en casa tu papa!! what a song . I am an Indian & don’t know Spanish. But still enjoy this one anytime

10. nice post

11. Psg lost veratti with injury , they had no other good CM , except lo celso .
    Huh …. I think they are getting god taste of their medicine .

    • Verratti was suspended mate.

12. Vamos Argentina! Vamos Tango! Be the champion!

13. No offense to Psg fans but they deserved to lost. Let go Lo Celso and use Di Maria as CM, here is the result.

    • Psg knew lo celso was very good and
      Was more than good enough to play psg team. but He is not big name brand like di Maria Neymar… cavani and mbappe …

      • lo celso must become big names nevertheless i never want any Argentinian play in farmer league, mid table club in top league is better than league champions in respectative farmers league

    • Di Maria distributes very well and he did well as a CM at Real Madrid. he has to get used to it again.

      • “Di Maria distributes very well and he did well as a CM at Real Madrid. he has to get used to it again”

        yes he does have to learn again but not now or ever again with the n.t, his time with the n.t should be well over.

        • ADM is very divisive.

          I get that he wastes a ton but he also steps up in big games. WC2018 France scored gave us a fighting chance to beat the winners, Copa16 vs Chile he dominated when messi was out, WC 2014 scored against the Swiss and we missed him dearly in final. probably would have won he was there, creativity left with his absence.

          Overall, I really cant name more players that i have fingers that are able pinpoint a pass better than him, create the most amazing counter or crosses like him. He literaly capable to changing the game on his own, something we lack in our players today.

          Of course, i also said that he wastes a ton so please do not repeat that.

          I hate seeing him age and worsen as he shown recently with his horrible passing and ineffective dribbling. I still think he should be apart of squad but maybe Martinez should start and ADM come in as a sub. Or iF ADM clearly head and shoulders above the rest, he should start. I prefer to use players based on form and transition them out as they age.

    • Thanks Pablo. Many people still had this misleading impression that Di Maria can play as CM box to box like he did with RM. The fact is he played with 2 monsters Xabi Alonso and Modric who covered him and had already the full control of the game. Di Maria is a risk taking type of player and keeping the ball, distribution and pressuring are not his stuff.

      • Covering a player like Dimaria is a natural responsibility for the other mids. Real does the same thing with Marcelo inwhich is more an advantage than a liability. Dimaria played cm in 2014 for sabella with Aguero, higuain and Messi in front. Dimaria is good defense as well covering a lot of ground. Angel Dimaria will still be part of the NT for the next 2 years as he should along with otamendi, by far our best cb.

      • canadienroyal: agreed and as you have pointed out players like d.m play in half billion dollar teams and they are surrounded by world class players who they get to play with every week during any given season.
        this make so many of todays players, in this modern game look so much better then they really are hence so many lop sided scores, these players have all the time and space in the world created by team mates and cr7 is a perfect example of this as well as he is not half the player messi is but cr was for so long surrounded by the r.m world 11 and this game him all the time and space to do what he did in front of goal.

    • It’s wasnt Dimaria that didn’t play well and lost them the game… Dimaria can play and should play more CM like he did under Mourinho… it’s PSGs bad defense particularly their overrated CB Silva ….

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