Argentina coach Lionel SCALONI is reportedly looking at three players to lead his midfield at the Copa America.
With veteran players like Javier MASCHERANO and Lucas BIGLIA retiring from the Argentina national team and the likes of Enzo PEREZ no longer being selected, coach SCALONI is looking at three players for his midfield at the Copa America.
Per a report by TyC Sports, SCALONI has Giovani LO CELSO, Leandro PAREDES and Exequiel PALACIOS in mind for his midfield three come the tournament this summer.
Giovani LO CELSO was included in the World Cup squad but the Real Betis man did feature a single second in Russia. Leandro PAREDES did not make the team while Exequiel PALACIOS made his Argentina debut with SCALONI at the helm.
Most people on this thread cannot make the difference between facts and opinions…
need best 11
and not to play Dybala messi Lautaro Dimaria Lanzini in same xi together…
rather take 3 or 4 midfieldrs
Musso
Saravia Foyth Pezzela Tagliafico
—–‘Paredes Ascacibar ———-
———xxxx Locelso
Messi——————— Dimaria
———-Aguero———-
Definitely need another defensive midfielder/Sweeper (Battaglia, Ascacibar etc) and strong defense to make this work.
Most importantly, who is the GK?
This is amazing but I still wish they could make room for Ascacibar…
This is quite closed to Sarri’s Chelsea and Blanc’s Psg: Paredes stay deep with 2 box to box so one more defensive and the other guy need to run, press and can dribble and hold the ball. For the second one, I prefer Zaracho who can play as right midfielder, which allows to transform the 433 to 442, which is better for Messi, like what Roberto or Rakitic doing for him at club. Lo Celso, I think he should play in a more advanced position like left attacking midfielder, in competition with Di Maria and Lanzini.
Palacios as the defensive box to box, why not. There will be lot of competition in this position. I believe that Acuna, Lisandro Martinez can be good fit too. They are actually even better because they can both play on the left too.
Obviously Messi has a better understanding with Busquets, Rakitic, Vidal, Arthur, etc since he trains with them day in and day out…
But a midfield of Palacios, Paredes, and Lo Celso may offer more pace, energy to Messi than he gets in Barcelona.
Maybe not as much control and passing precision, but Messi won’t have to worry about dropping too deep as these guys are all attack minded, so in the long run it could be a mouthwatering combination.
What about Lanzini??? Why isn’t he in the plan? He is a very good attacking midfielder.
Yes but these guys pretty much out play him. Also, no one has a confirmed formation so there could always be more players in midfield.
The problem with players like Messi and Riquelme is they r like Small kids,Who gets angry or Feels moody when they r not playing well they tend to keep their head down and show lesser interest in the Match, I may be wrong. But where as players like Tevez and Maradona r more Active players. Obviously its up to every persons character by the way. Some r shy while some r smart.
So i think Its natural that Messi not looking happier, Suppose if we r playing football. We would be far comfortable playing with our friends(Whom we r sharing day in day out) than playing with a new set of players. It will take time to form an understanding. He will adapt, chemistry can be build. I think the new midfield is better than our stale midfield of Mascherano-Biglia-Banega trio. Our new players just don’t have to fall in that trap of “GIVE THE BALL TO MESSI HE WILL DO THE REST” It wont work.
I have to disagree. When Messi feels down or isn’t playing well, he jumps back up. He is a true captain, and he is our hero.
Afa is dumb. They should have called the best players-comedians to entertain Messi. Instead they called actual football players. When do we learn? We need his friends and do everything to make him happy. He doesnt have anyone to play playstation. Look at the videos he looks isolated. Man this pisses me offf. We should take care of him like a little child. We should not treat him as a fucking grown man.
I’m confused as to what your saying. Is that sarcasm or actual feelings?
Obvious sarcasm.
Huh…explain your comment?
I have seen some training videos and same thing again messi is isolated from the squad he is not talking to anyone training alone while training for barcelona he enjoys the companion for his teammates.
Hey little sissy, how are you? Are you on something hard as usual? 😂😂😂
LOL not as hard as you are with some players the way you condemn some senior players with your illogical shit and idiocy.
So you deduced by watching 1 training video that messi is unhappy? Even if it is true then it should be on messi not on coach or afa. Barcelona fanboys like you should understand that argentina does not revolve around messi. Every player should be collectively come together for NT even if he is the best player in history.
“Barcelona fanboys like you should understand that argentina does not revolve around messi”
Either you have never watched argentina match or you are a biggest liar.Argentina NT has been more dependent on messi than barcelona game wise and financially both.
In barca he drops deep to collect ball from busquets but in NT he has to drop deep to collect ball from central defender. That greedy and corrupt AFA always used him for financial purpose to get good revenue from television ritghts and ticket revenue.
Even a player like tagliafico said that ” a good group can win a trophy but there was no arrangement from AFA and they dont know how use a player like messi”
Just because someone doesn’t smile, that doesn’t mean they are sad, or not happy. That might mean they are more dedicated or focused into ACTUALLY training.
A legit trio, All 3 r young and can lead our new Midfield for long time. The more they play together the more they get better. They can add some variety to our Midfield. but we need Back ups too, Battaglia, Ascacibar, Lanzini, Lamela, Vargas, Nico Domeniguez (Another gem who should be tested and can ably backup Palacios too) there r some cool players in our Mid field, they may not be playing the Big Clubs apart from Paredes. But they r good.
Anyway playing in Big Club players too haven’t helped us to achieve anything so that doesn’t matter.
Messi Bendetto Di maria is our forward line for copa and Icardi is put of picture now.
Bendetto and Aguero for copa confirmed.
Dybla should be out for copa ,weak player and creating confusion for team selection.
Icardi is the hottest striker this summer with real madrid move don’t think he left out after criticism faced Argentina not selecting in world cup, beneditto isn’t good from either in local league and let’s see how perform in friendlies, Icardi and lautaro 100% confirmed then fight between Aguero vs beneditto
Proper backup should be there. Lanzini can compete with Lo Celso and Palacios. At the moment Battaglia for Paredes as backup? Who are the other assured backups..?
Ascacibar
Palacios and Lo Celso are future of Argentina midfield not sure about paredes, but in copa paredes and lo Celso are ahead of others
I don’t understand why people say we need a destroyer and it’s a must thing. It’s bizarre actually. If that destroyer is good with ball and have extra qualities I don’t have a problem. But including a destroyer in the first eleven just for the sake of it is ridiculous. Having a destroyer(just classic old school destroyer) in the team doesn’t guarantee you a solid defence. It’s nothing but an old cliche. If you attack and defend as a unit( as they seems to be planning) then there’s no worry. Juve, Liverpool(last season in particular), Barca, and PSG are classic examples of that.
I like this idea of midfield. Palacios and Lo Celso have to do all the work. For me ,Lanzini(fully fit and sharp) is a better option than Lo Celso in that position. He has shown that in his debut season in England. I’m not sure Lo Celso is that player.
Me too I will have lanzini
When he fully fit I was
Following him closely
Since he came back
From that nightmare injury
Manual Pellegrini using in the
3 Men Midfielder for west ham
He getting better bit by bit
Each game in terms of fitness
Lanzini is more glass than Dimaria can’t relay on him back to back 5games with out become injured
“If you attack and defend like PSG and Barca”
well, there goes your answer
By definition, Ottamendi is a destroyer. As a result, he gives away easy balls and fouls.
If we look at the last two world cup and last three Copa we will find a fact that Argentina can’t make more gools.It has two reasons weak midfield specially defensive midfield as well as attacking mid field both are weak. The other reason Argentina can’t use their left wing. There is a shortage of righty winger. Messi, Demaria, Dybela, all are left thus any opponent can easily stop our attack by blocking right wing. Therefore we think about the left winger who are right leged like Mancini or De Paul so that our attack can be more sronger than ever. Another important think is that attacking midfilder like Lo Selso should play an important role like Inista….
Are you high? Dybala and Messi are both left footed, meaning they are RIGHT wingers. Also, it isn’t bad players which is our problem. It is a stable team. Ever since Sabella left, the last four years have been a sad and confusing story of failure and unstable formations. Not only that, but on top we have a corrupt AFA. Don’t underestimate the importance of the senior players. Masche, Di maria, romero, rojo, and lavezzi etc. are all top players. However, no team can work without a stable environment. You think France or Germany would have won with a corrupt FA and unstable team management? No! We saw that with France in 2014, and Germany in 2018. They both failed misserably. Messi and co. had a good enviornment and they had a plan. If you still don’t understand, think about how Chile won the Copa. They had only 3 good players, but they had unity.
Messi deserve a trophy for Argentina but it is impossible with out a proper team.
If we look at the last two world cup and last three Copa we will find a fact that Argentina can’t make more gools.It has two reasons weak midfield specially defensive midfield as well as attacking mid field both are weak. The other reason Argentina can’t use their left wing. There is a shortage of righty winger. Messi, Demaria, Dybela, all are left thus any opponent can easily stop our attack by blocking right wing. Therefore we think about the left winger who are right leged like Mancini or De Paul so that our attack can be more sronger than ever. Another important think is that attacking midfilder like Lo Selso should play an important role like Inista….
Rulli
Saravia pezella foyth tagliafico
Lo Celso paredes
Lámela
dybala Messi di Maria
Good….
Does that mean Dybala will be on bench
4-3-3 is good against small teams. But against big teams we need at least 4 midfielder. Rodrigo battaglia is a very essential player for Argentina. Much better than Guido or paredes . He is injured I know. But I have seen him playing for NT .He is the best in that position.
I think one more player is needed to complete the quadruple midfield. Either ascacibar or battaglia.
in upcoming friendlies NT called only Guido rodrigues and ivan Marcone who are pure DMs so lets see how these 2 players perform between the two maybe Guido has advantage of age(24),height(1.85m) and speed only drawback is he plays in Mexican league but who knows if he performs well in NT matches he might get transfered to some good europe club
If the team defends like a block and attacks like a block, particularly pocession fútbol, then i see no issue with these 3. Paredes is our busquets, technical control more tham pitbul and Locelso and palacios our box to box players. The key is the 3 forwards.. at least 1 of them has to track back every play (dimaria?). If we get 3 up top that walk (messi, kun, dybala) we will get overrun
True.
Then who is our Rakitic?
That’s my point too…..we need a forward to track back….that’s why I want di maria or Christan pavon on the wing position ….these guys hv pace to get from defensive third to attacking third in no time.
We don’t need playmaking type of wingers on both sides…we need pace.
I don’t know why re we worry about
To much having defensive midfielder
Before we had great mascherano
And biglia still we didn’t look like
So secured plus we had lack of
Creativety in that time having
both them in the team that is why
I always curse past regimes not
To use more oven ever Banega a
long side with mascherano.
I totally I understand why scaloni
Want those three in midfielder
Palacios is hard working lad
Leo paredes and lo celso has
Been great so far for the Nt.
There so many ways the team
Can be so compacte without
Having proper holding midfielder
Like keeping possession work
As team well organised tactically
So sound .
If you have best holding midfielder
In the world and still not getting
Your tactics spot on you will
Eventually lose the game.
Personally I believe having those
Three as midfielders will create
Hell a lot of opportunity for our
Forwards.
yeah these 3 guys are great in midfield but maybe adding a 4th midfielder who is a pure DM like Guido Rodriguez of club america fc whose age is 24,height is 1.85m and good speed who might surpise many with his performance in NT upcoming friendlieswont do any harm ,Argentina NT might perform better in 4-4-2 formation or maybe post copa friendlies if DMs like Guido Rodriguez or ivan marcone dont impress the maybe esteban rolon of genoa or santiago caseres of villareal shall get called up for NT
@godin11 Can’t agree more.
nice midfield but missing destroyer.
(Paging mundo technical experts canadienroyal or el-mongol :))
how does this work without destroyer?
Only if Palacios and Lo Celso run their socks off, back and forth, in a hyper dynamic box-to-box fashion (4-1-4-1).
Does this mean 4-3-3? I don’t know about Paredes as a DM…
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