Ezequiel GARAY scores match winner for Valencia against Real Madrid

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Ezequiel GARAY scored the match winner for Valencia in their 2-1 win against Real Madrid.

The veteran Argentine scored a towering header to make it 2-0 for Valencia. Madrid would go on to score right before the end of the match but Valencia would hang on for the victory.

Still only 32 years old, GARAY has not featured for Argentina since the 2-0 defeat against Ecuador at the start of the 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifiers.

127 COMMENTS

  1. Stop crying Argentina fans! Lol
    This generation of player really sucks and please stop blaming the coaches for their selection. At the end of the day it’s the players that need to make the play.

    Argentina will go down badly this summer. No way we can compete with Uruguay Columbia . Brasil will kick our Ass badly 3-
    It will be the end of the Messi Era with Argentina

    I’m sad to §attend this can’t compete with these fools
    GO Tite

  2. Cox4

    My apologies mate. It’s all my fault. I didn’t mean to hurt you, but it turned out bad. It went too far. Don’t stop posting or giving your opinions because of me or any other person. I got carried away with that post. It was way beyond rude calling you self righteous hypocrite fan police and it was uncalled for. So once again I apologize. Even though you sounded a hypocrite when you said you’ll support the team in good and bad times but you were the complete opposite of that during the Venezuela-Morocco games atleast to me. But I may have misinterpreted that, my bad. After all we are all here for one reason: ARGENTINA! But in different ways!

    Ebo

    You are right mate, I was the one who sounded like the “sheriff in town” and “hypocrite”. My bad, my apologies.

  3. @ghostdeini you are talking whatever shit you want your comments are more personal than logical as always.
    You were a critic of sampoli, bauza, maradona, scaloni,frienda club……………..as cox said you talk like argentina was winning tons of trophies and duiring messi generation they stopped winning it ,argentina has not won anything since 1991 who would you blame for batigol,aimar,riquelme,zanetti,ayala,crespo,cambiasso,tevez………..
    The biggest enemy of argentina has been their media and their federation if these bullshits continues the older generation suffered, messsi generation suffered and the our young generation will also suffer beside having these problems messi generation played the football argentina has kown to play and i think god has been always unfair with argentina because playing 3 consicecutive finals is not easy but we didnt win any ,we dominated germany in WC 2014 final still we lost forget about higuian messi missed a chance palacio missed 2 chances it displays how much dirty argentine media puts pressure on their players . You can see how belgium and media was celeberating after coming 3rd in WC but playing final for argentina is the biggest failure. If they dont change their mentality every generation of argetina will suffer with this curse.

    • the same afa, coaches and players.
      When Passarella said to Redondo and Batistuta cut your hair. AFA for letting Passarella making such criteria, Passarella for making such criteria and Rodondo for not cutting his damn hair.
      Pekerman for not slecting Zanetti, players(Sorin) for not wanting Zanetti.
      Bielsa for calling the corpse of Caniggia, and darlings like Husian instead of Solari(starter in ucl finala win), Saviola (on fire), and Riquelme. Then banking on out of form players, or injured players like Simeone who only played 14 games(look it up) that year.

  4. Choripan and Ebo

    I’ve been seeing Ghostdeini posts since I’ve joined Mundo. His posts are always very enjoyable to read. It always had substance and he always stayed true to his words. I’ve never seen any posts embarrassing himself. Yes, I can 100% say that he has a great reputation here and I’m sure most of the regular members here would agree to that. There are only a few here who can claim that.

    Most here are staying quiet because they’re tired of this shit and don’t want to get involved.

    • Agree with you pal
      I can confirm that I enjoy reading
      Ghostdeini posts most of the time
      His posts talk about exactly what
      I do think about Argentina NT.

    • Everything you said above is true, I was reading his post before creating an account here last year. and he had many great ones.
      But where did you get the idea that his reputation is questioned or his posts are undermined?
      Remember that we are all discussing our views, yes it might have been stretched far sometimes, but this subject was closed, why you feel the urge to stir it?
      because at the end respect is there for each other.

    • > I’ve been seeing Ghostdeini posts since I’ve joined Mundo. His posts are always very enjoyable to read

      Yes only because you personally agree and identify with the posts. Thats the difference. I agree and disagree and will call out when when I disagree with the tone, description, and message.

      > It always had substance and he always stayed true to his words.

      100% false statement.

      Just look at one the recent posts and you’ll see its just a bunch of ad hominem attacks and strawman arguments. No substance. However, just because that post happened, it doesn’t mean that all of his posts are the same as i have read many that are good.

      > Yes, I can 100% say that he has a great reputation here and I’m sure most of the regular members here would agree to that. There are only a few here who can claim that.

      Thats fine and all but this is a public blog and anyone is free to respond to posts. Just because someone has been here a long time doesn’t give them any divine power to downplay or ridicule anyone and that shit happens constantly.

  5. Cox4

    “all this idiotic things i am reading log ago in this blog and really anymore i am tired and completely disappointed. i stop post as i used and i just reading only anymore with full of disappointment for a lot of people here.there is so much poison in the minds of a lot of fans here. i am very very sad really.

    everybody here saying that they love Argentina national team but forgive me guys i don t see that on majority of people.
    i see only posts full of poison for players ,for fans ,for everything.
    Argentines we are fighters people full of passion for football and for our national team.
    in good and in bad periods. in good and in bad games. in times of talented players and in times of not talented players.
    always beside our team we cry and we laugh. always there to sing for our national team everywhere in world our national team plays.”

    ~~~Anyone can play this game Cox. You may have seen more WCs than many of us here in Mundo, you may have been supporting Argentina longer than most of us, but that doesn’t give you any divine right to say who’s a fan and who’s not. Nobody needs your approval you self righteous hypocrite fan police.

    • “anyone can play this game”.
      i don t understand your point on that. you mean football? of course yes. did i say opposite?
      if you mean i play one kind of game then be sure i don t play with anything.

      the fact that i have seen more world cups than some people here it doesn t mean anything.
      i never used it against anyone and i never accuse anybody use this kind of thing.
      i don t have any divine right to say who is fan and who is not OF COURSE.
      i don t have this kind of desire my friend.

      i only said my personal opinion about some thinking i am making and i share with my friends here.
      I HAVE THAT RIGHT YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

      in which exactly part of my writing i make the fan police?
      did i attack to somebody?did i said to somebody specific that he is not Argentina fan?
      i never use any name exactly because of that. i don t use names because everybody is free here to say whatever he wants. i am not answering or attack to anybody by name because i am not police and AS YOU SAID CORRECT NOBODY NEEDS MY APPROVAL.

      you accuse me as hypocrite. i am very very very very curious to learn what of my speaking makes me hypocrite but really i don t have desire to start speaking long with you and fight so i will pass it.

      my friends here knows me.
      i start post here from May of 2018. i learn about this blog and just because i know some English i start follow it here to see how the people around the world seeing my country and the national team.
      to learn and speak with fans of the team out of Argentina.
      just to know.

      now i am going back to my silence again because as you said CORRECT AGAIN and i mention too in my post before I AM TIRED WITH ALL THIS SH….

      • Like many here, I am always happy to read your posts, friend, please continue to post as I think you are one of the true sincere supporters of the NT. You always have respect towards any player and that is a sign of love for the NT.
        Sometimes when you don’t post for days, I wait to see your posts again.

    • Bati,

      Cox4 post was very well balanced – basically calling out shit talkers from all sides of the spectrum:

      “friends club” .”young lovers”. “young haters “. “old guard lovers”. “old guard haters”.

      Cox4 general point is that we have to support Arg during bad and good times and i couldn’t agree more. And hes also right that he sees a lot “poison” with unfair criticism of youngster and veterans (again calling out both sides).

      > You may have seen more WCs than many of us here in Mundo, you may have been supporting Argentina longer than most of us, but that doesn’t give you any divine right to say who’s a fan and who’s not.

      He didn’t mention anything about seniority, you’re completely making that up. Hes right though, true fans support through bad and good times.

      >Nobody needs your approval you self righteous hypocrite fan police.

      His post was balance and yet here you are rudely calling him “self righteous hypocrite fan police.”

  6. “friends club” .”young lovers”. “young haters “. “old guard lovers”. “old guard haters”.

    all this idiotic things i am reading log ago in this blog and really anymore i am tired and completely disappointed. i stop post as i used and i just reading only anymore with full of disappointment for a lot of people here.there is so much poison in the minds of a lot of fans here. i am very very sad really.

    everybody here saying that they love Argentina national team but forgive me guys i don t see that on majority of people.
    i see only posts full of poison for players ,for fans ,for everything.
    Argentines we are fighters people full of passion for football and for our national team.
    in good and in bad periods. in good and in bad games. in times of talented players and in times of not talented players.
    always beside our team we cry and we laugh. always there to sing for our national team everywhere in world our national team plays.

    THIS IS ARGENTINA.
    Guys i know you all have different culture here and i respect it fully.
    Just if you saying that you love Argentina and you want to feel little bit how it is to be one Argentinian fan then the way to feel it is by PUT MORE HEART AND EMOTION THAN BRAIN and COLD THINKING.

    we are not Germans or north Europeans. we are ARGENTINA fans. we are different.

    our team was not always the best in world but always till end we was fighting for the top
    in every single competition.
    we cry more than smile but this was always ARGENTINA.

    if somebody here wants to support one team which is cup collector then is better to support Germany , Italy , Brasil or somebody else.

    in ARGENTINA the sad times are more than the happy times.

    friendly to all Argentina fans in this blog.

    • Cox4 please don’t get dishearten. People always talk rubbish and some don’t understand football but they most often believe that they know everything. This is the problem.

      I am supporting Argentina from 94 when I was a kid of 6 years and I support passionately in the bad days. I haven’t seen Argentina lifting a senior level trophy but i can understand the passion. Don’t worry mate some like me will always be there and some will be sceptical.

      So, Vamos Argentina…

  7. i don’t watch Correa enough but why doesn’t he start consistently? not sure Atl is the place for him anymore. Great club but he doesnt seem to be progressing.

  8. Barbrady
    Nothing wrong being a kid with disabilities but being pure soul. 😀 TIMMAY.
    It’s better than being a obvious liar and Authority defender and still being dumb as f.
    You lack reading comprehension.
    All I said was I was a critic of Sampaoli way before the world cup so No I am not defending him.
    Everybody can read my posts since 2006 (That’s what I meant).
    Unlike you.
    Only if you had an alias (because you claimed to have been here longer)
    Can’t write Spanish I would apply.
    Never was, am or will be against Messi.
    Neither am I local league or any category supporter.
    Di maria came back and all I said was the coach wants him back so be it, understandable for me.
    If Aguero comes back also understandable for me.
    I am against Romero though because I think we have better options.
    Read better then talk.
    You can believe whatever you want about Sampaoli but the truth is both friends club and Sampaoli are responsible for the disaster. Shameful disaster.

    Ebo
    Are you sure about all the things you are saying?
    Why does it bother you so much when I say untruthful things?
    I have no problem with your comments. Believe whatever you want.
    It doesn’t make it true though.
    I never reply to Choripan or your comments directly, you do on mines, then I reply.
    Nothing you say is taken seriously by me.
    It’s fun.
    You know you can ignore me though.
    thank you!

    • 1- Are you sure about all the things you are saying?
      Yes.
      2- Why does it bother you so much when I say untruthful things?
      it does not really, but I guess this is the reason of this blog, discussion !

      3- I have no problem with your comments. Believe whatever you want.
      go back to 2

      4- I never reply to Choripan or your comments directly, you do on mines, then I reply.
      you are broadcasting your reply by referring to my name 🙂
      I have no problem at all if any one replies, you are more than welcome to do so, as you please.

      5- Nothing you say is taken seriously by me.
      It’s fun.

      likewise, but I will do all I can to defend my players. and it is fun to exchange opinions as long as it done in civilized manner.

      6- You know you can ignore me though.
      thank you!

      Will do. You are welcome 🙂

      P.S. I don’t really read everything you write, just get a general idea.

      • We are good then.
        The reply button is confusing after 3-4 replies that’s why I start from scratch, but never reply to YOUR comments.
        My players are each and every player that represent Argentina. Love every one of them, sadly not all of them can play so I prefer the one that deserve it, no matter age, location..it’s not about age I just think some players had their chance now others need theirs. I also would choose between a player 31-35 years and a younger player 20+years always the younger one if they are at the same level, especially for tournaments.

    • > Nothing wrong being a kid with disabilities but being pure soul. 😀 TIMMAY.

      Now this got a real chuckle 😀

      > All I said was I was a critic of Sampaoli way before the world cup so No I am not defending him…………… You can believe whatever you want about Sampaoli but the truth is both friends club and Sampaoli are responsible for the disaster. Shameful disaster.

      You were a critique before but youre absolving his actions by using friends club nonsense. Ive always agreed with you and said both are to blame but i think it largely falls on Sampa.

      > I never reply to Choripan or your comments directly, you do on mines, then I reply. Nothing you say is taken seriously by me. It’s fun. You know you can ignore me though.

      stop being “whiny”. just a blog. toughen up man j/k

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      • People with disabilities are the most pure hearted people in the world. Wish I had their courage, and pure heart.
        You don’t have to agree with me because I don’t care.
        At the end of the day past is past and now we must look to the future.
        Argentina will always produce players.
        Messi play terrible today.
        He is finished.
        Hope Scaloni doesn’t call him ever.
        Just playing with you, he was horrible to be honest.
        I think Suarez is the best player at Barca.
        Blood pressure must be high now.
        Messi si eht tseb reyalp ni eht dlrow. eh si eht gnik.

  9. Corrected average whoscored ratings per 90 mins!!! (18/19 in championships/whole career average which was recorded by whoscored):

    Paulo Gazzaniga only 2 matches this season/6,58 in 25 matches
    Esteban Andrada 7,29/7,07 in 52
    Walter Benitez 7,05/6,75 in 70
    Juan Musso 6,85/6,73 in 43
    Franco Armani 6,85/6,87 in 36
    Geronimo Rulli 6,67/6,61 in 149
    Sergio Romero no match/6,77 in 88

    Renzo Saravia 7,06/6,96 in 63
    Gonzalo Montiel 6,90/6,94 in 32
    Gabriel Mercado 6,94/6,88 in 106

    Nicolás Tagliafico 7,51/7,29 in 103
    Cristian Ansaldi-7,41/7,22 in 138
    Marcos Acuna-7,23/7,4 in 107 (mostly as winger)

    Lisandro Martinez 7,50/7,33 in 46
    Walter Kannemann brazilian serie a didnt start yet/7,09 in 54
    German Pezzella 7,09/7,02 in 121
    Juan Foyth 7,00/7,22 in 16
    Nicolas Otamendi 7,29/7,34 in 206
    Funes Mori 6,83/7,10 in 87
    Emanuel Mammana 6,84/7,14 in 62

    Guido Rodriguez no data from mexican league/7,15 in 15
    Rodrigo Battaglia 7,01/7,09 in 89
    Santiago Ascacibar 6,60/6,80 in 78
    Santiago Cáseres 6,83/7,07 in 59

    Ivan Marcone 7,47/7,17 in 55
    Ever Banega 7,23/7,44 in 338
    Leandro Paredes 7,38/7,47 in 144
    Lo Celso 7,21/7,50 in 100
    Enzo Perez 7,49/7,10 in 136
    Domingo Blanco 6,98/6,93 in 35
    Exequiel Palacios 7,09/7,32 in 32

    Rodrigo de Paul 7,29/7,18 in 146
    Paulo Dybala 7,51/7,67 in 218
    Maximiliano Meza 7,30/7,42 in 70
    Matias Zaracho 7,18/7,22 in 48
    Franco Vázquez 7,11/7,40 in 212
    Erik Lamela 7,40/7,51 in 225
    Manuel Lanzini 6,60/7,28 in 94

    Angel di Maria 7,82/7,80 in 347
    Christian Pavon 7,34/7,42 in 77
    Angel Correa 7,25/7,43 in 159
    Roberto Pereyra 6,70/6,98 in 228
    Gonzalo Martinez 7,05/7,42 in 73
    Papu Gomez 7,71/7,45 in 269
    Diego Perotti 7,53/7,63 in 260

    Leo Messi 8,88/8,77 in 451, league on his own, CR career average 8,18
    Sergio Aguero 7,92/7,66 in 368
    Mauro Icardi 7,03/7,15 in 230
    Joaquín Correa 7,59/7,26 in 122
    Matias Suarez 6,97/6,90 in 78
    Lautaro Martinez 7,28/7,44 in 74
    Dario Benedetto 6,70/7,48 in 49
    Gonzalo Higuain 6,95/7,58 in 415

    Appreciate the fckin hard work what i’ve done with this list, cca 3 hours calculation

    • Interesting that most strikers increased like Icardi, Martinez, Benedetto, and HIguain but other positions is a mixed bag of increase and decrease.

      442 based on high rating per 90

      Aguero – Messi

      Di Maria – Paredes – Guido – Lo Celso

      Tagliafico – Otamendi – L Martinez – Saravia

      Andrada

      • every player’s stats increase with 90 mins correction, whoscored rewards good/bad moments and the rating start from 6.0 in every match…so…if a player’s rating is 7.0 after 100 matches but only in 4500 minutes overall (that player plays only 45 mins per match on average) that player would rate on 8.0 per 90 mins (in 9000 mins), every minutes you dont play will miss from your rating, the reason why constant sub players rating is always very low and misleading

  10. Officer Barbrady
    you are exaggerating.
    You are new poster here, I was a big critic of Sampaoli before the world cup and the players.
    Sampaoli did his share of failing, but the players too.
    Blame Sampaoli only as much as you want but it is clear as day that you know deep down that you are wrong.
    You live in denial and need to find peace.
    Some of the players will play: Messi, Aguero, Otamendi, Di Maria, and some won’t.
    Guess what?
    I will support all of them, rooting for the team.
    I don’t have expectations of winning this time because we are rebuilding.
    I see good vibes in the team and no matter who plays I am sure will give its all.
    While you will probably hope for the youngsters to fail like you have been doing since you came here.

    • Timmy,

      > you are exaggerating.

      By all means provide examples.

      > You are new poster here

      Irrelevant but i’ve been here long enough.

      > Blame Sampaoli only as much as you want but it is clear as day that you know deep down that you are wrong. You live in denial and need to find peace.

      lol Oh really? Yeah sure, i know deep down that Sampa was right and he was bullied and he sacrificed. Give me a fucking break!! lol

      > You live in denial and need to find peace.

      From what exactly?

      Ive said over and over that Sampa bares the lions share of the fault. Are you disagreeing?

      > I don’t have expectations of winning this time because we are rebuilding.

      YEah, because Scaloni is dogshit. You’re the one in denial.

      > While you will probably hope for the youngsters to fail like you have been doing since you came here.

      lol. Here we go. Complete bullshit statement which is a straight ad hominem. nothing do with the subject at hand but simply used to divert. Try this bullshit on someone else lol.

      • Barbrady
        You are a character that was phased out while Timmy was a star.
        We were a handful that were critical of the team and Sampaoli going into the world cup. It was when it mattered.
        You weren’t one of them.
        I searched threads from May 2018 and your name never came up.
        Look at the picture you use: Messi in a Barca shirt.
        I post here since 2006 and never have used an alias.
        My track record is great.
        The reality is we are rebuilding and your favorite players are going to get phased out. We can get better or worse, only future will tell but Argentina National team will always be supported by me.
        I dont care about Scaloni. He can go as far as I am concerned. I am not attached to names.
        This team will go through a rebuilding process like it or not. This is my stance and nothing has changed.
        Bad times for you so keep your blood pressure in check because we don’t want you to die of hate.

        • Your post is not talking about football anymore.
          Being a member here for short time or long time before the WC or After is not a a criteria of someones support for the NT, nor it is a criteria for being right or wrong. I am new here too, but been reading this blog for years.

          Thinking that someone is hoping for the team to lose because some players don’t play is just outright wrong thought.
          What amazes me here is the ability of some who have a crystal ball looking into other’s soul and say that they are fans of certain generation or they are only ‘OLD guard’ lovers and supporters, or Messi fans …etc .

          Having a picture of certain player in any shirt is irrelevant to someones true support for the NT. They could have a picture of a water melon for all I care.

          again, throwing a whole generation for the sake of ‘rebuilding’ is not rebuilding, it’s constructing brand new team. and it will take double the time and effort. yes of course Argentina will be strong again, but in how long?
          Using a major FIFA tournament as training ground for another FIFA tournament in supposedly 3 or 7 years is just a waste of time and effort. by then all those youngsters will be discarded and considered ‘OLD GUARDS’, and there we will go again

          P.S Sampaoli was at fault 99%

          I wanted to say 100% but I said maybe I can compromise a 1% 🙂

          • It’s turned to a bunch of babble at this point filled with ad hominems and strawman.

            That 1% is waaayyyyy too generous. Throw in a few decimals 🙂

          • Argentina played
            4 matches in the WC
            4 different formations
            4 2 3 1 against Iceland
            3 4 2 1 against Croatia
            4 4 2 against Nigeria
            4 3 3 against France with false 9 (no striker) and high backline. no striker for Argentina when they produce best strikers in the world !

            I bet it was Mascherano’s and Messi’s decision to keep rotating formations.
            3 ATB for Argentina never worked and never will unless Argentina starts producing WORLD CLASS CBs and WORLD CLASS WINGBACKS on constant basis, But Argentina is known for producing World Class forwards throughout history.

            I give him the 1% for taking the job 🙂

          • It’s so ridiculous and yet players keep getting blamed..selfish, don’t know when to quit, whiny, failures, losers…blah blah.

            Mountain of evidence right in front their eyeballs yet verbal poop is still being tossed around. Probably goes back to that broken mentality..just looking for anything to suit their narrative.

          • My friend @cox4 was right in bringing that up. Broken
            Mentality. that does not make of less supporters though, He is one hot blooded Argentine, but he deserves to be called the Wise Man of Mundo 🙂

            Now let us be on the opposite sides, Atletico all the way 🙂

        • > You are a character that was phased out while Timmy was a star.

          Only Timmy would be be proud to be Timmayyyy.

          > We were a handful that were critical of the team and Sampaoli going into the world cup. It was when it mattered. You weren’t one of them.

          Lol. Goodness, you’re pulling BS out of your ass. You’d be perfect fit for the Arg Media. you should consider submitting your resume.

          > Look at the picture you use: Messi in a Barca shirt.

          Dang, what great find there Mr Sherlock Holmes.

          > My track record is great.

          Self-reported track records is pretty much useless. But yes, please feel free to pat yourself on your head, Timmayyy.

          > The reality is we are rebuilding and your favorite players are going to get phased out. We can get better or worse, only future will tell but Argentina National team will always be supported by me.

          Thats perfectly fine, nothing last forever. Its how we transition is the difference between you and I.

          You want to toss out the veterans, lose back back Copas to possibly get ready for WC22.

          I want a transition of mixed veteran + new to increase our chances during Copa and WC22.

          We have to different methods of rebuilding…we’ll agree to disagree on the best approach.

  11. AVERAGE WHOSCORED RATINGS THIS SEASON:—-

    Goalkeepers:-
    Paulo Gazzaniga-7.49
    Esteban Andrada-7.29
    Walter Benitez-7.05
    Juan Musso-6.85
    Franco Armani-6.71
    Geronimo Rulli- 6.67
    Sergio Romero-5.88

    Right Backs-
    Renzo Saravia-7.01
    Gonzalo Montiel-6.82
    Gabriel Mercado-6.80

    Left Backs:-
    Nicolás Tagliafico-7.29
    Cristian Ansaldi-7.19
    Marcos Acuna-7.14

    Centre Backs:-
    Lisandro Martinez-7.47
    Walter Kannemann-7.13
    German Pezzella-7.08
    Juan foyth-7.03
    Nicohlas Otamendi-6.96
    Funes Mori-6.81
    Emanuel Mammana-6.48

    Defensive Midfielders:-
    Guido Rodriguez-7.24
    Rodrigo Battaglia-6.93
    Santiago Ascacibar-6.60
    Santiago Cáseres-6.79

    Central Midfielders:-
    Ivan Marcone-7.47
    Ever Banega-7.22
    Leandro Paredes-7.22
    Lo Celso-7.12
    Enzo Perez-6.98
    Domingo Blanco-6.88
    Exequiel Palacios-6.80

    Attacking Midfielders:-
    Rodrigo de Paul-7.27
    Paulo Dybala-7.15
    Maximiliano Meza-7.01
    Matias Zaracho-6.96
    Franco Vázquez-6.92
    Erik Lamela-6.67
    Manuel Lanzini-6.43

    Wingers:-
    Angel di Maria-7.44
    Christian Pavon-6.89
    Angel Correa-6.71
    Roberto Pereyra-6.65
    Gonzalo Martinez-6.64

    FORWARDS (Strikers+ CF)
    Leo Messi-8.58
    Sergio Aguero-7.48
    Mauro Icardi-6.99
    Joaquín Correa-6.94
    Matias Suarez-6.83
    Lautaro Martinez-6.64
    Dario Benedetto-6.45

  12. Uruguay U17 vs Argentina U17 : 0 – 1 (Sforza)

    Thank you, GOD…

    Vamos Argentina! Go Tango! Be the winner! Be the champion! Go to the 2019 FIFA U17 World Cup!

    GOD bless…

  13. my friend Ebo and my friend Choripan.

    i will break my silence today only to give you one advice.
    there is no reason to spend your energy to some people to open their eyes to see the obvious things.
    if somebody don t want to see something he will not see it anyhow. because he don t want.even if you have right.

  14. Okay problem solved.
    All we need to do is welcome and treat players good.
    If they make mistakes and play bad we must say you are good.
    This is the formula to winning the world cup.

    Representing Argentina in 78 in times of the Juntas where you were forced to shake hands with Generals who imprisoned your friends was easier than being criticized by nobodies..
    Search in youtube:
    World Cup Stories – Argentina [part 1]
    World Cup Stories – Argentina [part 2]
    My other post with the links is under moderation, every time I post links.

    The greatest player and captain taken out of the World Cup in 94 those players had it easier playing without him.

    Maradona had it easier being kicked cursed in 1990.

    In 2006 looking at the bench seeing our best players Riquelme, Aimar, Messi, Crespo, Saviola and only Tevez on the pitch running like an animal, against Germany in Germany still those guys fought like lions, they had it easier.

    Top 3 is in my opinion undeniable. In my opinion he is 2.
    1. Maradona
    2. Messi
    3. Di stefano
    (robbed us this player)

    • Top 3 is in my opinion undeniable. In my opinion he is 2.
      1. Maradona
      2. Messi
      3. Di stefano

      My bad, I totally forgot about him(but assumed Pele is there because a lot think so) He was robbed by Spain, I know

    • > Okay problem solved. All we need to do is welcome and treat players good. If they make mistakes and play bad we must say you are good. This is the formula to winning the world cup.

      Nagh, all we need to do is not be dicks, especially during loses because you know what, it pays dividends the next game by boosting moral and confidence. It’s not a mystery at this point. we LITERALLY saw what happens when douchebags and media criticize these players non stop. Its ruins their confidence.

      So, WE have 2 choices:

      1) Support players even in loses and ensures their confidence is maximized. The impact will certainly help in the future and current state.
      2) Act like a douchebag monkey and throw poop and spit at them all day and ruin their confidence.

      Those that pick number 2 are just effin brilliant.

  15. Okay problem solved.
    All we need to do is welcome and treat players good.
    If they make mistakes and play bad we must say you are good.
    This is the formula to winning the world cup.

    Representing Argentina in 78 in times of the Juntas where you were forced to shake hands with Generals who imprisoned your friends was easier than being criticized by nobodies.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLs8ivpLtyE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ7whArfa3o

    The greatest player and captain taken out of the World Cup in 94 those players had it easier playing without him.

    Maradona had it easier being kicked cursed in 1990.

    In 2006 looking at the bench seeing our best players Riquelme, Aimar, Messi, Crespo, Saviola and only Tevez on the pitch running like an animal, against Germany in Germany still those guys fought like lions, they had it easier.

  16. We need a replacement of paredes ASAP unless he improves his defensive qualities and athleticism otherwise he will not be useful for us. I watched couple of psg matches there is nothing special in him his passes are also not dangerous at all now i doubt his talent.

    • Agreed, he has bags of talent but he lacks athleticism, which is unsurprising since he spent his last few years in Russia where the league is almost geriatric when compared to places like the BPL.
      Sadly playing in league1 with a team like PSG isn’t likely to improve that aspect of his game much.
      To be honest if palacios comes back from injury strong he should start ahead of Leandro because he was way more impressive in his brief 2 matches than Paredes was in any of his.

  17. While many will focusing on tactic, Argentina losing many finals has more to do with big preasure to win thropy or bust mindset. Its always in the back of players mind. Its pretty obvious that they just panic when they couldnt score after 15-20 minutes.

    Here’s a very simple stats that shows Argentina technically has always been superior to Chile except in a game with a mounting preasure , a tournament final.

    Argentina vs Chile 2014 qualifier home = 4-1
    Argentina vs Chile 2014 qualifier away = 2-1
    Argentina vs Chile 2018 qualifier home = 1-0
    Argentina vs Chile 2018 qualifier away = 2-1
    Argentina vs Chile 2015 Copa final = 0-0
    Argentina vs Chile 2016 Copa group stage = 2-1
    Argentina vs Chile 2016 Copa final = 0-0

    Chile won 2 Copa without scoring goal . If we face any other teams in those 2 finals, the outcome most likely would be the same because we would see our players missing a sitters over and over.

    We need a manager that could install a tough attitude in players mind so they’d play with grit and determination and not scare of their opponent.

  18. Ebo
    How do you know that they were not better then? – It’s your opinion.
    Messi is top 3 player of all time if not more while Dybala is a common star. Everybody with a brain would want Messi over him. What’s your point? Just because Messi is better so Biglia and Mascherano were better? Are they a package deal? Why can’t you guys separate Messi from other players? Why does he always have to have this player or that player attached to him?
    I said before the world cup I want Messi but I don’t want him in a package deal.
    That midfield you idolize so much put us in deep shit in the qualifiers were we barely qualified!
    They were finished!
    Ok, let me guess Martino, Bauza, Sampaoli were at fault for fielding that midfield .
    Qualifiers:
    1st match: Biglia, Mascherano, Pastore, Di Maria,
    2nd match: Kranevitter, Mascherano, Pastore, DI maria
    3rd match: Biglia, Mascherano, Banega, Di Maria
    4th match: Biglia, Mascherano, Banega, Di Maria
    5th match: Biglia, Kranevitter, Banega, Di Maria
    6th match: Biglia, Mascherano, Banega, Di Maria
    7th match: Biglia, Mascherano, Di Maria, Dybala
    8th match: Biglia, Madcherano, Banega, Lamela, Di Maria
    9th match: Kranevitter, Mascherano, Di Maria
    10th match: Mascherano, Banega, Di Maria, Gaitan
    11th match: Biglia, Perez, Mascherano, Di Maria
    12th match: Biglia, Mascherano, Banega, Di Maria
    13th match: Biglia, Mascherano, Di Maria
    14th match: Pizarro, Perez, Banega, Di Maria
    15th match: Biglia, Pizarro, Di Maria
    16th match: Mascherano, Pizarro, Banega, Di Maria
    17th Match: Biglia, Mascherano, Banega, Di Maria
    18th match: Mascherano, Biglia, Perez, Di Maria
    They played in almost every match.
    The truth was that we knew that this guys couldn’t get the job done. Neither you or me know how the young guys would have performed! At Least the youngster would have gotten experience.

    Argentina and Portugal are 2 different Calibers. Nobody expect Portugal to win. It’s not my problem that you see Argentina as a weak football nation which is happy with semi-finaals and finals. Regardless of what you think Argentina is one of football’s superpowers: Brazil, Germany, Italy, Argentina, and now France and to a certain degree Spain and And lesser degree England who have only one target: Winning!
    Portugal are happy when they progress and win when nobody expected them in 2016!
    Tell me any reports from Portuguese newspaper where Cristiano Ronaldo Is involved in Portugal’s Selection of players!
    Manchester United fans love him because he won titles, Real Madrid fans love him because he won titles, Portugal fans have no reason to hate him because e won a title. Juventus fans also love him. But everyone else hates him and wherever he goes he is hated. opponent fans scream “Messi” at him.

    Yes it is a mental thing and that is what I am saying, some fight through it and some dont.
    My friend this is a dog eat dog world.
    I had a really bad phase in my life. quit school, didn’t have a job, spend all day doing nothing, and felt out of place in the world. People used to criticize me calling me a bum and I should do something with my life. Most didn’t have symphaty for me. I used to hate those people until one day my uncle said you must go back to school and finish it. He left me no other choice. Now I got my life in control and am a teacher. Whining didn’t give me anything.
    I know how they feel. Believe me most people love you at the top and hate you as soon as you arent of interest to them.
    Whining is not the solution.
    I hate to see Messi end his career without the World cup. It would be a shame.
    I want Messi and Argentina to lift the trophy, and I think everyone in here wants that too.

    Choripan
    Get this to your head: I AM NOT DEFENDING SAMPAOLI!
    It was clear that Sampaoli was not in charge but I can’t help you living in denial.
    Sampaoli was in charge 4 matches in the qualifiers.
    He came in deep shit and tried to make changes.
    0-0
    1-1
    0-0
    3-1
    After those results he was under fire and immediately lost backing from the fans and Afa.
    When he lost against Spain he lost total power.
    All your favorite players played in that game.
    Everybody saw what happened at the world cup.

    • “At Least the youngster would have gotten experience”.

      Agree here. I’m sure Paredes, Lo Celso and other could not win WC in 2018, maybe not even went more far than 1/8 too, but at least would have gotten the experience and now our team would have do better during 2019 Copa. (I was only sure before 2018 WC we will not go far with that threadbare generation)

      We slept through another tournament which was proper time to give the chance to new generations to gain experience which will pay dividends the sooner they will get this.

    • Nice one, Ghostdeini. I’m joined Mundo years ago and even the old Worldcupblog and Passion albiceleste (ca. 2006). I love reading your post and also Gonzalo.

      Just ignore Ebo and Choripan.
      Last time I asked them “should Sabella, Martino, or Sampa scores the goal for them (the old guards)?” and they never answered me and accuse me as Ronaldo fan. They always blame the coach and praise the old guards.

      At least Ronaldo won something for Portugal. He also won for Manchester United, Real Madrid, and now Juventus.

      • “Just ignore Ebo and Choripan.
        Last time I asked them “should Sabella, Martino, or Sampa scores the goal for them (the old guards)?” and they never answered me and accuse me as Ronaldo fan. They always blame the coach and praise the old guards.”

        COULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK AND POINT TO ME WHERE I ACCUSED YOU OF BEING RONALDO FAN, OR ALWAYS BLAME THE COACH !
        YOU JUST DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCRETE ARGUMENT. ALWAYS BRINGING UNRELATED COMPARISONS IN UNRELATED CIRCUMSTANCES.

        SAMPAOLI WAS AT FAULT BIG TIME, IF YOU CAN NOT SEE THAT, I CAN NOT FORCE YOU TO DO 🙂 IF HE WAS NOT AT FAULT HE WOULD HAVE STAYED

        AND YES, i PRAISE THE SO CALLED ‘OLD GUARDS’ BECAUSE AT THE END THEY ARE THE PLAYERS OF THE NT. IT SEEMS NO ONE READ WHAT RIQUELME,TEVEZ,MESSI,MASCHERANO,HIGUAIN,ROMERO AND MANY OTHERS SAID ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE MEDIA AND FANS AND THE LIES SPREAD AROUND THEM.

        AT THE END, ACCUSING SOMEONE OF BEING CERTAIN GENERATION FAN OR EXPECTING SOME PLAYERS TO PERFORM BETTER BASED ON OTHER PLAYERS NOT PERFORMING GOOD, IS JUST LIKE FISHING IN THE DEAD SEA. WHEN IT’S OBVIOUS THAT FISH DON’T LIVE IN IT.

      • Then go and suck his dick, yes he won with the luck of the century and without him in the final, says all, when he stayed injury free Portugal’ve won nothing, when he was injured Portugal instantly won the Euro, Eder>Ronaldo

      • What this @rolandman99 penaldo ass licker is doing ,go to portugal and juventus fan club blog this blog is not for you asshole ,this is argentina NT fanclub.
        Portugal won the euro because penaldo didnt play in it otherwise result would be different.

      • Oh look. Douchebag spoiled petulant brat is back.

        > Last time I asked them “should sabella… Score?”

        No one responded because it’s a moronic question that doesnt a deserve response.

    • I don’t agree with you, but I respect you for going through this long explanation of your view.
      Sampaoli should have played to the strength of his squad, regardless.

    • “What’s your point? Just because Messi is better so Biglia and Mascherano were better? Are they a package deal? Why can’t you guys separate Messi from other players?”

      It is certainly the opposite, I am against people who imply ‘the package deal’ and have that engraved into their head.

      People who accuse Messi of bringing his friends club to play, those are the ones who don’t get it.

      Reminder of Messi’s interview few days ago :

      “I KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY SUPPORT ME. EVERY TIME I WOULD GO TO ARGENTINA, THEY WOULD SHOW ME A LOT OF SUPPORT. I KNOW THAT IT’S THE MINORITY WHO LOOK FOR CRAP. I KNOW THAT CLEARLY.”

      Exactly. people looking for CRAP

      “IT BECAME CUSTOMARY FOR PEOPLE TO SAY THINGS ABOUT ME, INVENTING… ”

      True, Inventing

      “THIS GENERATION HAD TO DEAL WITH THINGS THAT NO OTHER ARGENTINA TEAM HAD TO DEAL WITH. SO FOR PEOPLE TO SAY SUCH CRAZY THINGS AND SO MANY LIES WITH A STRAIGHT FACE, TO BE HONEST, I NEVER SAW THAT BEFORE. THIS GROUP GOT TO DO GREAT THINGS. WE PLAYED IN A WORLD CUP FINAL… WE PLAYED IN TWO COPA AMERICA FINALS. IT’S NOT EASY TO GET TO THAT POINT. THE MEDIA IS A MESS. THAT’S WHY WE BRUSHED THEM ASIDE AND DIDN’T WANT TO SPEAK TO THEM BECAUSE IF WE DIDN’T TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES AND STRENGTHEN ONE ANOTHER, THEY’D KEEP ATTACKING US.”

      Don’t blame the players for playing better at their clubs, because they are ‘RESPECTED and Welcomed’ there.

      “THE CLUB OF FRIENDS IS SOMETHING THAT I’VE HEARD FOR YEARS. I WAS SUPPOSEDLY THE ONE THAT MADE UP THE LINEUPS, BROUGHT IN THE COACHES AND I VIRTUALLY RAN AFA. THE CLUB OF FRIENDS HAPPENED TO BE THE BEST AT THEIR CLUBS. IT GETS ME UPSET TO HEAR IT.”

      Friend’s club paranoia 🙂

      “THEY ALSO SAID MY FATHER HAD POWER WITHIN AFA. IT’S JUST CRAZY. MY FAMILY SUFFERS. I HAVE FRIENDS, FAMILY IN ARGENTINA THAT SUFFER BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT THE MEDIA SAY. ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING AND PEOPLE DON’T QUESTION IT. THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT.

      “THEN I BECOME THE MOTHERFUCKER WHILE MY DAD RUNS AFA. IT’S JUST CRAZY.”

      go search what other past and current players said about this subject.
      and please don’t compare yourself to others as men are not created equal.
      because it is unrelated situation, only if you are a player in the NT then you can compare your strength to theirs.
      WE all go through problems in life, but each situation has it’s own standards.
      when you sacrifice and be treated like shit, completely different from losing a job or quitting school.
      and some will go ahead an accuse me of praising one generation. and being a ‘Messi” FAN. just for saying the truth.

    • “Messi is top 3 player of all time”

      Ok, I know 2 only, who is the third?

      Don’t tell me it is Pele, because I am old enough to remember him playing, he was not up to the hype he is portrayed to be. the WC had mostly 3 confederation then, 16 teams, and he never played in Europe, rules were completely different,Tactical plans were different, defenders were not that physical, formations were different, offside rules were different and he scored most of his goals against weak Brazilian teams from maybe 4th tier. and he had a hell of players at the Brazilian NT. So he does not belong in the top 3 not even top 5, I rate better than him players like cruyff, Beckenbauer and Puskas (scored 514 goals in 530 games for clubs including Real Madrid, and 84 goals in 85 matches for his NT-take that for scoring rate-) winning a World cup is never a criteria for being the best.

    • > Choripan Get this to your head: I AM NOT DEFENDING SAMPAOLI! It was clear that Sampaoli was not in charge but I can’t help you living in denial….When he lost against Spain he lost total power. All your favorite players played in that game.

      BUT YOU ARE by making some made up assumption that he lost power. And to whom did lose power to exactly? To Messi the little dictator? Goodness give me a break with that stuff.

      AFTER spain..
      Did Messi keep calling Meza to start?

      Did Messi bench Lo Celso?

      Did messi bench Aguero against FRANCE?

      Did Messi command to play useless 3ATB against croatia?

      Did Messi want to keep changing formations every game?

      Did Messi command to play a HIGH BACKLINE against speedy gonzalez frenchie?
      (I suppose Messi commanded we play HIGHBACKLINE against Spain too and loved the embarrassing thrashing so much he commanded we use it again against Croatia)

      You know what, I wish MESSI took charge during the qualifiers but he didnt. It was so obvious that none of the players were comfortable and felt like they controlled the team. It was a fucking nightmare with the Sampa chaos and it started well before and continued through the WC. This “after spain” is nonsense. It sounds like a Sampa apologist.

      Bottom line, Sampa donkey show bares the lion’s share of the blame.

  19. I don’t know why he was expelled after 2-0 defeat to Ecuador in WC qualifying round? And till he hasn’t called up.. he is our best defender after Ayala… I don’t know till he is able to play for Argentina but at the age of 32 he is performing very good…

  20. How this penaldo shitter wants dybala out of juventus , coz his playing style doesn’t suit him.
    He wasn’t countinho – dybala swap , but neither Messi wants him in Barcelona due to their previous issue.
    Really I feel for this kid , he never complains if he doesn’t play in NT matches , but he still remains happy with everyone . Such a jolly kid . I hope he leave juventus , coz neither Allegro knows how to use him nor he have benefited from Ronaldo’s arrival.
    God bless this kid .

  21. 🌞My copa starting 11🌞
    ⚽⚽⚽ Formation: 4-2-3-1 ⚽⚽⚽
    Gk- romero/ Gazzaniga
    DF- Pazzella, saravia, Otamendi, Tegliafico
    Dm- Ascacibar, Parades
    MF- Messi, Lanzini, D maria
    Fw- Aguero
    Sub- Kannemann, Lo celso/ D paul/ palacios, Icardi…
    🏆@ssha03★★★

  22. Garay- has to be in the team. He is our best defender and has the qualities of a great leader. His reading of the game is better than any defender we have. I hope he makes it.

    • Garay had to be in the world cup 2018 instead of slow Fazio or useless rojo now its time to move on from old guards keep in eye to 2022 world cup, Foyth, Romero, manama, martinez etc should be given more chance

      • For once, we agree Romance.

        Copa is a training ground for the worldcup. Anything more than that is shortsighted.

      • Rojo was not useless for argentina he had used in the wrong position ,he should have played in LB position in place of tagliafico who was more useless than rojo and Garay and Otamendi as a CB.

  23. I can see myself in the mirror and say that the current midfield is way better than the midfield at the world cup. We’ll see at Copa.

    Hate to bring it up.
    Cristiano Ronaldo gets clowned everywhere he goes but he feeds of on the hate and shuts people up.

    Afa is to be blamed for not backing up Sampaoli regardless, Sampaoli is to be blamed for letting himself become a puppet, tactics and no continuity, the players are to be blamed for spending more time on playing politics, declaring that this world cup is this generations world cup and then not backing it up.

    • Sampaoli failed miserably in tactics at world cup. From Iceland to France he made utter mistakes only. That midfield could have worked if he was only play accordingly our squad strength. Maybe not world champion but could have troubled France bit more

    • I don’t want go too many details
      What happened last summer
      But one thing I know is
      Half of the players went world cup
      Wasn’t right players for sampoali
      Style which is to play 3atb high line
      Defence squeeze the opposition
      Play their half. high intensity
      Consistently attacking from the wingers
      So I do believe sampoali turned to be
      Puppet he sacrificed his stlye in oder
      To please some people weather is
      Afa or players I don’t know.
      But i believe they should gave him
      More chance to build his own team
      Atleast up to the copa .

      • He didn’t sacrifice his style at all. He kept changing formations every game. He also constantly changed players and tactics. The guy did everything but change his style. And he did everything in his power to prevent n any style or identity from forming.You think 3ATB against Croatia was because Masche wanted it? Or he dropped Aguero against France is because Messi wanted it?This recent narrative that sampa somehow sacrificed or a puppet isnt telling the whole truth

    • Ok, I will reason with you,

      “the current midfield is way better than the midfield at the world cup”
      but they were not better, then. and that’s why they did not make the list. following Sampa’s plan, they would not fare better against Croatia or France, it’s an obvious analysis of form and talent comparison. it’s like having Messi or Dybala on your team? choice is obvious. But expecting them to win against Modric,Rakitic and Kovacic is just an illusion, that might happen say 1% . so for a probability of 1% you are willing to take a risk? again it is not logical to say they would have been better based on merely ‘expectations’
      Still sure that they are not better,now by the way.
      “Hate to bring it up.
      Cristiano Ronaldo gets clowned everywhere he goes but he feeds of on the hate and shuts people up.”

      Please provide me with a video from a Portuguese Tv channel, or Sports Commentator, or a Portuguese national or a fan who cursed,disgraced, ridiculed, degraded, in the same manner that Argentina players are treated on constant basis.
      It’s easy for you to say, just man up and play the game while you have not experienced the agony of being treated that way, you see, for example If you don’t know how it feels to be cold, or never experienced the freezing cold, and I tell you it is cold, you will not understand how it feels, because you never experience the feeling. But many players themselves came out and said how it affectws them to play under constant pressure. Or you never really listen to any coach who said before any important match that we are playing without pressure? WE are the underdogs, so the pressure is always on the opponent. never heard of that?
      never underestimate the mental aspect of the game.

      following your logic, if any player who could not make the list in WC2018, but he was better than someone who made the list, and was pressured to not play because of ‘friends club’ paranoia, then he should just man up and let the pitch speak and prove himself better as you suggested.

    • yo yo

      > Afa is to be blamed for not backing up Sampaoli regardless

      What does this mean…example?

      > Sampaoli is to be blamed for letting himself become a puppet

      whos the puppet master? Did the puppet master chose formations and tactics during qualifiers and world cup? I don’t understand what you mean by “puppet”, its like your absolving his role in the shit mess.

      > the players are to be blamed for spending more time on playing politics

      What politics?

      > declaring that this world cup is this generations world cup and then not backing it up.

      Well yeah, no players are earth could have “backed it up” under the CHAOS of qualifiers and WC under Sampa. You put paredes and Asca instead of Masche and Biglia and nothing would have changed.

  24. I wonder why Garay our then best defender decided to step away from the national team!! Did he not get along with his team mates and the coaching staff or back to back World cup and Copa final loss was too much for him to handle?? He was part of the team in the first Copa final loss, wasn’t he?

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