Lionel Messi let his emotions show during the semi final penalty shootout as the cameras were rolling.
Messi took the first penalty for Argentina while Emiliano Martinez was the hero. There was an exclusive camera by TyC Sports which followed Messi around throughout the shootout.
He was seen hugging his team mates and celebrating. At one point, when Martinez saved Mina’s penalty, Messi was shown yelling at Mina and telling him to “dance now”, in reference to Mina dancing after he scored his penalty vs. Uruguay in their match.
Yes, a very good point on penalizing Foyth from that one single misstake !
Referrering as to MarioKempes post â Looking back I think I agree that Foyth should not have been penalized for one fault in the qualifiers. He is much better and could have given Neymar a run for his money. Molina was ok but not very good in most of the matches. But today he was a let down.â
Yes, it was one of those many stupid decissionâs of Scaloni, but actually it was the WORST one ! Because, theese things happen constantly on the very last minutes of football game speacilly when the coach has allready decided that his team has to defend and only defend their lead whether they are up 1-2 goals( with Scaloni most propably even 3 goal lead will make change team tactics as even more defenssive what we have seen allready quite, sometime!)
Offcourse one must allways defend well and make sure that your opponent canât score against u or at least not let that many goalâs in and Yes Scaloni has done that quite well in terms of how many goals we have conceived, but the way his doing it is not good at all and it is very risky business for our beloved Albiceleste specially with cbâs like Otamendi and specially Pezella who should not be even on the bench !
Otamendi was once quite an good Cb, but as usual as older the cbâs get they will ultimatly get much slower as we have seen with Pezella, but it is not only about Pezzella and his lack of speed, but rather all his presence on the field is just horrible and very scary for our beloved Albiceleste!
Otamendi Still has it in him if he has the right kind of support, but this does not TaKe away his prone for error making so u kind of never know what u will eventually get with him ?
So i do not understand at all why we have not given any time for Lisandro at all, because in that qualifier against Chile he did good also he is a very good and skillfull/technical player with very good football IQ + he plays for Ajax and constantly better and better and for if not Barca then eventually he will move on hopefully to the right team for his own progress even Ajax is allready a great Team to play for and their Academy has allways been constantly producing talent over the past history tilâ this very moment. And actually he can play in quite many different positions and is very good at passing the ball and creating play from the back and he can even attack or easily could play also as DM, not fully sure about as pure left back, but for sure our best LCB ! He can defend by positioning him well and he is quick enough with very good attacking skill and his height is not really a big concern, because by positioning himself well he can jump quite high actually and there has been clear evidence in past history of very great, but quite short players for CB ! As Cannavaro, Puyol for example and iâm quite sure that Argentina has had also at past history at least some great kind of short though, but very good CBâs as it goes for pretty much for many countrieâs, but in modern football height is overrated and wanted more than a very good skill, but kind of short CB !
This is just pure maddness, because the best players should allways play offcourse there have to be sacrificeâs sometimes depending against who is your opponent… and in Colombia game well Yes i kind of understand Scaloni why to, but Pezella in front Lisandro instead,, but actually not ! Well because like â Godin said in one his postâs that Colombia did not played football instead they played kind of rugby game!â And i deffinetly agree with Godin about how physical game the Colombians played and have played allready for quite sometime because of lacking enough good quality players etc…yet, Still how they scored was one good pass and very good finnishing with speed as that same Colombian player who scored was a constant threat to us and by far the best Colombian player, just canât get his name to my head now, but i think he plays for Porto if i do remember right…Luis whatever his name is ?
So putting height and physicality and stupidity with Pezzella instead of kind of lacking a bit of height as maybe same goes for also physicality wit Lisandro, but as far wiser player with much better game reading and understanding not to even have to mention Lisandroâs another good abbilityâs which he has so many in him so even that Colombian atack which led to their goal came from right side or for Pezell to or should have defend it off which we all clearly saw that he was not capable of doing it as same goes pretty much for all his actions on the pitch, only one good stop against one of last Columbian counters which got him booked for yellow and also i do wish lime some others have done in this website that i would have rather have him get read instead of yellow !
So my point is that wit Lisandroâs good posioting and with his speed he might have even saved us fromthat goal even playing as LCB ! And that why he is a must against Varzil and Neymoney and Co., because Varzil like someone allready mentioned here or most propably many members of Mundo do agreewith that Varzil donât play as physical as Colombia! And even they would or who ever we will face Lisandro should allways be our LCB until someone new comeâs and surpasses him or at least give him good competion for to be our main LCB !
But, back to foyth and MarioKempes wise postâ Looking back I think I agree that Foyth should not have been penalized for one fault in the qualifiers. He is much better and could have given Neymar a run for his money. Molina was ok but not very good in most of the matches. But today he was a let down.â
Yes, i more than agree! This was THE MOST STUPID THING FROM SCALONI SO FAR ! He single pointed only Foyth on that Colombian Late equalizer ! Which for me could have happened pretty much to any our players since they were ordered by Scaloni to just defend and specially stay back ! OMG ! This not the way to defend instead at least u have keep on playing your great game which we were clearly playing in Colombia at that qualifier before this Copa ! U canât or u should never break the great play by your team as coach and change to ultra Turtle defenssive mode and let your opponent do whatever they want !
Not need to be an average coach or great coach or coach at all to know this because this common knowledge in football, instead just keep playing your great game that you are having it and just replace the tired players to the ones who can continue that greatbgame to play, simple as that because by attacking u also defend and vice versus, but if u only stay in a turtle ultra deffensive mode for one half of the game and let your opponent to do whatever they please then everyone knows how it will end!
And THE WORST THING FROM THE COACH NO MATTER WHETHER WHO IT IS , BUT IN THIS CASE OFFCOURSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SCALONI, AND WHAT HE DID AS HIS WORST MISSTAKE OF HIS WHOLE CAREER WAS TO GO SINGLE POINT ONLY FOYTH FOR THAT LATE COLOMBIAN EQUALIZER WHICH IN MY OPPINION COULD HAVE HAPOEN TO ANY OUR PLAYER SPECIALKY AFTERTHEYBEEN ORDERED BY SCALONI TO JUST DEFEND WITH ULTRA TURTLE MIND FOR HALF OF THE GAME , SO FOR ME IT WAS MORE MARCHESIN WHO FUCKED UP IN OUR GOAL AND LET THAT SOFT HEADER IN WHICH HE COULD HAVE SAVED BY HIS LEG INSTEAD TRYING TO DIVE AND SAVE THE BALL WHICH LANDED NEXT TO HIS FEETâs ! SO WHY DID MARCHESIN DO THAT, WELL BECAUSE HE IS NOT AN GOOD GOALIE OR AT LEAST GOOD ENOUGH FOR OUR BELOVED ALBICELESTE ! And why he came on instead of MUSSO WHEN EMI GOT INJURED, WELL BECAUSE OF SCALONI ! ANDWHAT DID SCALONI DO IN HIS POSTMATCH REPORT, WELL HE SAID CLEARLY THAT WE DOMINATED AND CONTROLLED THE GAME UNTIL THE VERY LAST 96th minute AND ONLY DREW BY ONE SINGLE MISSTAKEBY FOYTH ! COME ON SCALONI, AT LEAST BE HONEST AND ADMIT YOUR ERRORS AND DO NOT PUT IT ON OUR BELOVED ALBICELESTE OR EVEN WORSE JUST SINGLE POINT ONLY FIYTH BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN ACTOINS AND ERRORS/MISSTAKES AND BAD DECISSION MAKING DURING THE ACTUAL GAME AND JUST PUT ALL YOUR FRUSTRATION WHICH U BROUGHT IT UPON YOURSELF BY BAD MANAGEMENT AND VERY POOR DECISSION MAKING ,! AT LEAST INSTEAD BE A MAN AND A CLECVER ONE FOR GOD SAKE YOUR OUR HEAD COACH SO INSTEAD JUST SINGLE POINT ONLY FOYTH ON THAT ERROR U SHOULD RATHER TAKE BLAME ON YOUR SHOULDERS LIKE REAL MEN OR REAL COACHES DO AS FOR EXAMPLE CHOLO, PEP, OR EVEN MOURINHO DO AND FOR GOD SAKE ALKWAYSPROTECT YOUR TEAM AND SPECIALKY YOUR PLAYERS ! PERIOD !
Its strange most here rates Guido more than Paredes. I for one would start Paredes over Guido. Guido keeps holding on to the ball for no reason and attracts unwanted pressure. But he keeps it simple. But thats it.
Paredes meanwhile can bring much variety like long passes, shoats from outside the box, Penalty taking ability. He is a deep lying midfileder not a Number 5. Playing both also we cant afford from the start.His attitude is not good by the way. Unsporty behaviours.
Battaglia-Paredes combo was good against Brazil in one of our early Friendlies under Scaloni. If i am not wrong. Battaglia was a monster someone who we could have used against tough physical teams. That injury ruined his chances. Anyway for Final i think Scaloni may go ahead with Guido.
Parcedes lost us the semifinal vs Brazil last copa America with a poor defensive play against Dani alves for Brazilâs first goal⌠his defensive composure sucks!!! Guido is simple but better defensively and against Brazil⌠thatâs needed
Messi’s video and players celebration gave goosebumps. Have a good feeling this time around that’s how Argentina’s team energy looks like.
Hope Romero plays in the final … .. argentina looks solid……. Lautaro need to keep on being brave…….Meesi is exceptional as he has been almost all the time……I don’t know … should de Maria start in the final..?
I love that dig at Mina
He was such a piece of shit at both Barca and in this game đ¤Ł
Players rating according to the whole Argentina fans from TYC.
1. Emi Martinez 9.8
2. Molina 4.79
3. Pezzella 5.35
4. Otamendi 5.82
5. Tagliafico 5.78
6. Guido 5.8
7. De Paul 6.08
8. Lo Celso 6.26
9. Messi 8.79
10. Lautaro 7.15
11. N. Gonzales 5.59
subs:
12. Paredes 5.75
13. Di Maria 7.54
14. Montiel 4.54
When the whole people voting, I find it vey accurate and fair. No biased fans who would give their favorite players to high points or their hated players too low points.
During World Cup 2014, we held a similar player rating poll here after each match and the result was terrible. TOO many biased fans here, for example if they donât like Di Maria, they would give 1 or 2 even if he deserved an 7-8.
Clearly right back is the biggest concern
Molina is not bad. It is just he had a bad game yesterday.
You are right but Scaloni like Montiel and may go for him since Mollina had a bad day.
Although irony is Montiel was partially responsible for the goal we conceded
Montiel will get ate up against Neymar⌠with Molina at RB and DePaul helping out, the right side will be as good as it could get
Argentina will miss Foyth vs Brazil?
Otamendi deserved higher ratings
We are blaming the defence but nobody is talking about people upfront who are not pressing hard to stop the attacks. Defence should begin in the opponent’s half the moment the ball is with their possession. Just chase them in their half and force them to go for only long passes so that the actual defenders get enough time to clear the balls aerially. The same pressing football is seen in almost all Euro matches. The rise of the Italian Phoenix from the ashes is based on such pressing football against the opponent, specially against the mighty mighty Belgium. They completely cut off the supply line for Lukaku. The moment you allow the opponent come close to the Argentine box, players like Cuadrado and Neymar would create whole lot of problems for the defenders. Let Messi be the only person who wastes no breath in chasing upfront. But De Paul, Lautaro and Nicholas can do that chasing in Brazil half. They are young, energetic and have more to gain at this stage of their career than Messi.
I think they are just unable to counter press so high for 60-70 minutes. You have to play higher for it else the middle is exposed, but then the backline has no speed to catch up if it breaks down so it is a big risk. We can easily observe the final 20-30 minutes and see how high the line was compared to minutes in the middle of the game. No surprise that’s when they started looking better offensively. But at the same time the back was starting to come apart. CB had to take a yellow in fact, which is ok in minute 85 with no ET but you cannot do that in minute 35.
Plus the older players cannot commit to it 100% of the time. Especially because if the press gets bypassed, with 2 players missing in tracking back, it is a lot of work for mids to carry out. So you just have to pick and choose moments. So they just strategize to not do it when ahead. Of course this is also the reason they don’t maintain possession.
Your RB choice against Brazil?
FOYTH is the best RB i’ve seen argentina play and we never play him đ hes not even on the roster
He is garbage
Right El Mongol. That is the reason why high pressing teams are more subject to fatigue. Older players can not press as much. In order to be a really good pressing team it requires a lot of preparation from the coach to get it perfectly right. That is not really the way we play. Individual players pressing is good but not at the risk of the team and leaving spaces behind
I don’t get it almost 85% comments are still negative or so critical for the nt. What you guys expected to work over Colombia just like that come on football has changed
Plus their physicality were insane. Personally I gave Argentina more credit to stand , fight and cope with the physical game in back to back games. Honestly I thought arg played good first half and second half wasnât more rhythm due a lot fouls however after thier equalised Argentina better much better and deserves to go through. I thought paredes was excellent after came in so di maria. One thing I learned under scaloni.
Argentina are not conceding many clear cut chances at the same time creating clear cute at the other end of the pitch plus can play football when they have to like last 25 minutes vs Colombia…. just add to that coco basile believes Argentina will win vs Brazil and paredes must start according to him and understand football pointview. Love lautaro the above scoring back to back knock out games just look his work rate also his penalty so confident he is everything you want from your centre forward… Messi need players like him BTW I never Messi like this he is more motivated than ever
I mean he becomes unplayable against him
Romero back than Argentina are sort it in case if he doesn’t make it please play lich martinez a long with otamendi because Brazil aren’t physically like rest other South America team.
Yes Romero or Lisandro, Please no Pezzella. He is running like a 60 year old.
Yes Licha is a must for our LCB AND SHOULD PLAY EVEN IF AND HOPEFULLY ROMERO WILL RECOVER IN TIME !
He channels his inner Maradona haha , that expression reminds me of Diego when he’s angry.
Defense must be (#5 and back)
Guido
Acuna otamendi romero Molina
We stay level and then bring in dimaria, Aguero (Lautaro) in minute 65âŚ
The impossible is possible ..
and probable with messi
Bringing in Dimaria at 65-70mins is too late against Brazil. Did you not see how tired others were when Dimaria got in … one of the reason our strikers couldn’t convert open chances was tiredness.. Lautaro would have buried the chance he missed if it was in the first half. We need atleast 70-75min of Dimaria against Brazil. Dimaria was the reason Columbia coudn’t overun our midfield.. Brazil’s defence and midfield is way more better than of Columbia.. we can’t keep our best-players on the bench. Nico gonzalez has to be benched !!
When Di Maria was ignored constantly by Scaloni 2 years ago, he shared the story with Neymar who was called up by Brazil. You know what Neymar said?
âAre they all crazy in Argentina or what?â
Isnât it ironic that we have 2 good Left Backs at the same time we donât have at least 1 good Right back (Molina has got better to be fair but his defensive ability is still a work in progress).
How on earth are we gonna stop Neymar, even with all the tricks and dramas there is no doubt that he is one of the best players in the world. Out of Molina & Montiel I would rather choose Molina. RB spot was always a tough spot for us to fill since the days of Zabaleta. Mercado was decent by the way.
Problem is that, in the Finals Scaloni canât afford to tweak the team formation like playing a 3 at back will be suicidal and it doesn’t make sense to change the formation for the Finals. Looking back, I think Foyth should have been selected as we have 28 players to choose from. Our Right side will be a headache for us in the finals, De Paul will have to do a double duty. Play Guido and Tagliafico instead of Paredes and Acuna so that the defense gets additional support. in short, start the same 11 as per the Semis.
Why so much concern for Mollina he is a very good player and reliable. You talk like that Neymar going to crush him. Had Brazil not played against Chile and Peru and won by one goal margin those team also does not have great RB.
Tagliafico does not bring anything Acuna is much better. His match vs Ecuador was phenomenal and other group stage matches while Tagliafico rarely has good games
Off course Molina along with De Paul can nullify Neymar at Right side like Saravia had done in the past in 1 match. We can just hope Molina can pull off something like that on an off day for Neymar. Every player will have a bad day. We can just hope that it happens. Lets see it will definitely be some task as per me
In that match Scaloni parked the bus. He had zero intension to score. When whole team is parking the bus then even Iran can look like Italy! However, right now we have to go with Molina and Depaul to clip Neymar’s wing. Messi Lautaro and Dimaria should lead the attack!
Looking back I think I agree that Foyth should not have been penalized for one fault in the qualifiers. He is much better and could have given Neymar a run for his money. Molina was ok but not very good in most of the matches. But today he was a let down.
we have a RB that has the speed to stay with anyone in the world FOYTH but for some reason we always play other muertos
Mirame en l cara! EstĂĄs nervioso! Te voy a comer! Hahahaha
Baila ahora, baila ahora! Hahahaha
Di Maria is on fire; playing the last two games, he is the game changer and optimized him as a starter and can be replace in second half with Papu or Kun Aquero not by given him chance after 70 minutes. Hopefully Di Maria can play like today, unselfish and not too long dribble the ball; just penetrated and easily passed it to others. Nico is in dilemmatic, he can help the defense but not good and no luck in scoring and it’s too late to bring A Correa… as the team chemistry is already solid. Acuna is a must with Romero, drop Tag and Pezzela. De Paul looks tired in second half after getting much knock down by Columbia player, but Scaloni keeps him up until the end of the game.
Nothing is impossible and looking forward to watch Messi lifting the trophy. Vamos Albiceleste !
Luck will never favour us again, especially against Brazil. Because Luck and Brazil are inseparable, so is the association.
Without a total domination we can’t win the game. That must be the lesson number 1 for scaloni.
Need to man mark Neymar.
Should never go back from hunting mode unless we have a 2 goals lead.
You know the future and too much about luck. You should play lottery.
lol what if even Brazilian buy a lottery ticket then đ LOL
Hope scaloni sticks with molina till the end and starts romero and acuna instead of pezella and taglifico….VAMOS ALBICELESTEEEEE…..apart from the defense Argentina looks good….gonzlaez is doing well tracking back and that is what we want
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