Argentina national team captain Lionel Messi spoke about the squad prior to the start of the Copa America.
Lionel Messi, along with the rest of the Argentina national team squad and coaching staff, landed in Brazil on Sunday evening. The team will be based in Argentina for the Copa America and will be flying in and out of the country prior to and after matches.
Messi commented on the team and how they are for the Copa America. Here’s what he had to say:
“I believe we’re here at a good time. It had been a while that we weren’t together and it was difficult at first. We played two good games, apart from the fact that we couldn’t get a win. We always try to have a strong group, to build a competitive team. It has been some time that we’ve been working with the same idea, I think we’re still training but on the right track.
“The new guys have arrived, I think the idea and the way the Argentina national team plays is very clear. I think it’s the moment to strike and this Copa is a big possibility. We’ve arrived doing things well but we need a win. It’s always important to start off with the three points because it gives you tranquility. We know it’s difficult but hopefully we could do it.
“We are left with a sour taste in our mouths with the way the match vs. Colombia ended. But beyond that, I believe we left a good image. There are things to correct and we are willing to continue to grow.”
Regarding his career with the Argentina national team:
“The tournaments with the Argentina national team are always special. I never would have imagined playing as many matches as I have in this shirt. I always live it day to day and try to give as much as I can.
“I’m always available for the Argentina national team. My biggest dream is to win a championship with this shirt. I was very close a few times. It didn’t happen but I keep trying. I will always fight for this dream.”
The captain also commented Rodrigo De Paul and what he means for the team:
“Rodrigo De Paul is an important player because of what he generates on the pitch. We’ve gotten to know each other little by little and I feel very good playing alongside him.”
Argentina play Chile on Monday in their opening match of the Copa America.
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Mrinal1235
firstly this kidhood guy is self declared fan of Colombia.
my friends here saying the truth. we don t accuse him empty.
secondly he is coming here every time the national team playing and write a book with how gardage is Argentine team. we don t want to hear his opinion because simply he is not with our team. you expect to hear what from a Colombia fan exactly?
thirdly and most important for me i expect an apology for his insult to all the Argentine people for his comments about us some years before. he disappear after because of that without have the balls to explain enough his accusations against Argentine people.
Now he return from shadows time to time to tell us what exactly?
as long me and old friends here we are present this guy will not be forgotten.
As about Brasil fans exist inside here. it is not lie too. i don t say their names because they don t behave bad and personally everybody is welcome as long as he respect some things.
just make me sad to see self declared fans/friends of Argentina to unite with our oponents and try humiliate our team all together.
Mrinal1235
despite our differences in football opinions you are honest person and this is why i am writting to you. if it was else i would ignored you.
friendly.
voice of reason amigo
can anyone provide link for the match?
Some interesting facts :
1) Of the 23 players from copa 19, below is the number of players retained in Copa 21 squads:
Argentina – 16
Brazil – 12
Chile – 9
Uruguay – 17
Colombia – 16
2) Maximum coach representation country in Copa… Argentina ( as usual )with 4 coaches in total 10 coaches
Thats very interesting. We should not have excuse of us being all new 🙂
Interesting. It felt like the Chile team knew each other better. I wonder how much the difference is for retained players in starting 11’s
Argentina should play attacking game throughout 90 minutes because there are players in this team who thrives in attacking rather than defending. Messi, Aguero, Lo celso,Paredes,De Paul, C. Romero,N. Gonzalez,Acuna are kind of player who usually thrives in attacking run of games.
All that is needed this time is a bit of luck. 2019 Semis against Brazil, Aguero hits the post, then Messi hits the post, despite all the one-sided officiating and not referring to VAR, Argentina didn’t play bad or was not dominated by Brazil. This game could have gone either way if one of those goals went in. Biased officiating only frustrated the players. The same can be said about other finals, injuries to key players followed by horrible misses.
Ronaldo comes out in the first few mins but somehow Portugal scores in injury time, or Pavord’s fluck kick that lands in the top left as Armani looks on, all this, while Higuain misses the chance of his life not once at the WC final but also in 2015 Copa. All we need is a little luck to get the odd goal, a little ‘hand of god.’ Lets hope we have it this time around and get the trophy on Brazilian soil.
You know how much of bad luck Argentina has in last 25 years?
Just look at their head to head with Chile in last 10 meets. Chile never beat Argentina except in 2015 and 2016 finals where they won the penalties which statistically a draw. Every other game, they always lost . Argentina beat them at group stage, qualifier, friendlies, always.
Argentina CANNOT rely on luck cause they never have the quota for that.
What bad luck Argentina were lucky. In 2014 WC Argentina could have been knocked out by Netherland thanks to Mascherano and at that match Neetherland made many good chances.
In Copa Penalty shoot out with Colombia was also luck.
Kevin this is a poor opinion. ARG made clear chances twice in that match if I remember correctly. Two teams were same. Luck did not play a big part in the quarter and semi.
Argentina teammates were saying that vs Netherlands they thought many time that they have lost the game.
These Mundo users or fans they call themselves are stupid people… Against Chile Argentina defense did nothing wrong.. Argentina were unlucky to not win.. Still so many ashholes are bashing quarta.. They want new set of playing 11 every other match .. Stupid bstrds..as soon as Romero is fit this defense will be solid no matter who he partners with.. Come on Argentina.. Come on Messi.. As Shakira song says oh oo oh oo This time of Argentina..
Actually, Argentina has been struggling to score after Tata era. Otherwise, they could have killed them game with more goals. However they often stuck at just 1 or 2 goals at max in past few years. The lack of true playmaker in midfield and winger back who could surge forward are the reason why the frontlines arent producing much goals.
We ended up relying the forwards to do the scoring task on their own, thus its easier for opponents to neutralize Messi, Lautaro or whoever play upfront.
Tata era we didn’t score either. Remember those side and back passing people used to complain here. We need some intense passing and 1-2 around opposition box to unlock. But we are lacking at this otherwise team is on right path since we are only building squad. Hopefully from next match we see some quick passing around the box and some runner
Didnt score in final but scores 10-18 goals in previous games.
Defense is not just 2 CBs. Or 3.
Our full backe are not decent. That’s not the fault of Scaloni. But Argentina Defense is not solid without a proper full back atleast in either side.
You are right Bimal. Even average players given time together can build a huge understanding and unbeatable team. You don’t need all world class in every position. There is no denying that we lacking in creativity and hopefully coaching team working on it
I honestly find it very stressful to write or even read many of the posts on this site as of late…….. from doom and gloom predictions ……to morons showing up out of nowhere to confess their love for this nation or that (NOT ARGENTINA) and how we fans are so pathetic for supporting our team…….to this lineup or that…..to wHY is this player playing instead of that……..etc
I know everybody is frustrated and wants to vent their disappointments with the team THUS FAR but you’re only driving yourself crazy because nothing is said here or anywhere on any ARG site will have any bearing on how the team performs.
I HOPE for a GOOD WIN today, collect the 3 points and move on to the next game…….that’s it.
Exactly, I’m so fed up too, I don’t know when any coaches at the Argentina national team duty will please you guys with his selection and starting lineups, please don’t forget that we all only knows something about the team from news especially from here at Mundoalbicelete but coaching staff working with the players that’s mean Scaloni or any others known well than any of us here, Scaloni will taking responsibility if it failed, we need to support him and enjoy the game, best of luck Argentina. Vamos
Well said.
I think otamendi will improve in time he is just 33 by the time he is 35 he will be world-class armani is young we don’t have to be worried for the next two World Cups we are in safe hands. I don’t know what he is planning with them Argentina have the Habit of misusing their players can u believe requilme have only 52 caps redondo 29 caps Samuel 30 something caps I think Lisandro will only have like ten caps
Looking back at our previous tournaments In last decade, you can find a common trend. (It’s not limited to Argentina only, most of the International teams,especially out of Europe shows that).
We starts the tournament without any chemistry. Many occasions, it affected our complete tournament, nervous start is really a bad thing.
But its also true that, we used to grow as a team, match by match. Look at 2014, 16 & even 19.
Particularly in 19, we were totally shit at the start. I thought we are going to get out from group stage itself like Yellows of 16. But we grew as a team and gave solid performances in Knockout, was unlucky against a strong Brazil team with full Var support.
This is why I see a positive light this time.
We already played a 2 games ahead of copa. And even in group stage we have plenty of chances to get prepared and peaked for Knockouts.
In Paper, our mid and attack is really strong, capable enough to defeat any rock solid teams in our day. This copa & it’s structure is really a helpful one. I hope we use it well & win it all. Looking for a positive start.
Vamos Argentina, let’s win the first game. And then rest of all, one by one.
Hope 🙂
WC 1978 & 1990, Argentina were champion and finalist despite losing once at group stage. Spain also lost at group stage in 2010 but ended up winning.
To win a tournament, a team just need to hit the top form during the KO stage. Portugal technically only won 2 games in Euro 2016 , yet they won the tournament. Luck plays big role aswell. Do people forget Brazil actually needed a shootout in 2019 QF?
Yeah I think with withdrawal from 2 invited nations Qatar and Australia will help us a lot because we’ll play 4 games in group stage round plus we already played 2 games in WCQ so in group stage we can try something before real tournament start in quarter finals if something not clicked as we hope for then we can fix it.
Vamos Argentina
Brazil relied on ref in 2019 but this time , they got ref + pcr test.
In fact, the pcr test eliminated almost the entire Venezuela starting line up lol
I know here love some defenders and hate others, but Chile goal was 90% Cristian Romero mistake, he was the reason that wasnt an offside, and who stop to running inexplicable as last man, so chile player could cross the ball easily. I look Chile and Columbia match again.
Romero is probly the best defender argentina has seen in a long time, u cant blame the line when foyth does silly stuff like that. & thats why he got dropped i applaud scaloni for getting rid of foyth both games were ridiculous mistakes.
Silly stuff Foyth tried to recover the ball but what can you do when the opponent player completely bends his body down to the ground there was no Foyth mistake.
That’s his first match. He need more chemistry with this team to overcome those type of issues.
Argentina need kick….
Argentina always feel nervous in any tournament first match, so most important is tomorrow match.At least a win must need.
# if we win the tomorrow, we will play minimum final even maybe win the cup.
# If win minimum 2 goal difference, then we will be win the cup..
scaloni is n’t experienced but he has good presence of minds.. if he done 20% wrong decision till now then he done 80% right decision.. he should n’t be replaced after copa.. if there is necessity afa should appoint bielsa or gallardo as tactical advisor.
Yes, for me scaloni is doing alright. The only problem I have with him that he should be little bit braver and should encourage his players to move ball faster.
Sometimes players need to show some character when things are not going thier way. And with those defenders no coach can do better. Christian Romero and emi Martinez will play a crucial role for us.
👍👍
Agreed with Csabalala regarding Brazil.
I have watched extended highlights of Brazil’s last 3 matches. They are solid at back but in terms of attack they are nothing special.
Almost 100% of their attacking initiative comes from wings. Neymar at left and Danilo at right does the most attacking move. And it is not sophisticated wingplay either, mostly long cross to d box and trying to beat the wingback and short cross or pass to D box. No creativity from midfield at all. If you defend wide and defend with numbers such attacks can be shut down with relative ease.
The challenge is to score against them. Their defence is good and with physical midfield, their defensive structure is hard to break. Also if you choose to defend with numbers, then your attack becomes easy to dealt with.
Defending with numbers and inviting pressure will not be ideal for Argentina.So if Argentina faces Brazil, midfield control will be key and our wingers need to pin down their wingbacks, just like second half of Brazil friendly which we won 1-0. This way we can limit their attack withour disrupting our attacking play.
“Argentina-Serbia 6:1 (very weak team, we beat them 6:0 on Olympics two years earlier too)”
Serbia & Montenegro weren’t a weak team, but Argentina was very, very strong at the time. S&M topped a group that containted Spain and Belgium and conceded a SINGLE goal in the qualifiers. @Csabalala, Is that what you call weak in your dictionary or you like to belittle Argentina’s huge victory?
Belgium in 2006? They were like Bulgaria or Romania now. No world class players there, 98WC Mijatovic, Savicevic, Sinisa Mihajlovic, Stojkovic, Savo Milosevic, Kovacevic etc., but good win but mostly against 10 men. Serbia didnt qualified for Euro 2004 and for Euro 2008 neither.
Belgium was always a good team and I think comparing them with Romania isn’t fair in any way. They played 13 WCs while Romania only played seven.
On the other hand, S&M had good players. Kezman, Stankovic, Milosovic, and Dordevic. They weren’t short of good players, but Argentina were superior to them.
Btw this Brazil team only good in counter attacking, transition football but weak with the ball, not much creativity against stacked defenses, Scaloni is a smart guy, look how they beat Argentina historically, we will give them the ball and the possession then kill them, Brazil are nothing extraordinary in proactive football (never were), without spaces Brazil teams are mostly nothing, dont let them run.
@ csabalala…. correction.. Argentina beat Belgium 1-0..
Lost to Germany only on penalty..if you saying those stats and telling me then look when Brazil beat European countries (strong) post 2002?
Bra -cro 1-0( Croatia were weak that time)
Bra-jap 4-1
Bra -aus 2-0
Bra -ghana 3-0
Bra-fra 0-1
2010 too Brazil played against Portugal Ivory coast and North Korea Chile and Holland
2014 Brazil played Croatia Mexico Cameroon Chile colambia Germany Netherlands
2018 Brazil played Serbia Switzerland costarica Mexico and Belgium…
So say that Brazil is weak???
In fact post 2002 Argentina and Brazil record are similar in world cup
“We wouldnt beat Turkey, Macedonia, Ukraine, Sweden , Denmark, Croatia , Austria etc 🤣🤣🤣 is hilarious.”
When was the last time Argentina beat stronger european teams constantly? Not now. WC 1990: Argentina-Soviet Union 2:0, Argentina-Romania 1:1, Argentina-Yugoslavia 0:0, Argentina-Italy 1:1, Argentina-Germany 0:1….WC 1994: Argentina-Greece 4:0 (a weaker european team) Argentina-Bulgaria 0:2, Argentina-Romania 2:3….WC1998 Argentina-Croatia 1:0 (last match of group stage without real importance) Argentina-England 2:2, Argentina-Holland 1:2….WC2002 Argentina-England 0:1, Argentina-Sweden 0:0….WC2006 Argentina-Serbia 6:1 (very weak team, we beat them 6:0 on Olympics two years earlier too) Argentina-Holland 0:0, Argentina-Germany 1:1….WC2010: Argentina-Greece 2:0 (weaker team) Argentina-Germany 0:4…WC2014: Argentina-Bosnia 2:1, Argentina-Switzerland 1:0, Argentina-Holland 0:0, Argentina-Germany 0:1….WC2018 Argentina-Iceland 1:1 Argentina-Croatia 0:3, Argentina-France 3:4…….plus Confederations Cup final in 1995 Argentina-Denmark 0:2, Conf2005 Argentina-Germany 2:2…..
plus WC2014 Argentina-Belgium 1:0…
Do read my post. I didnt say Belgium , France, Germany, Portugal or even Italy & England or Netherlands. I dont think this Argentina team needs to fear mid level table European countries even one bit. The names i said i am confident our NT will beat. Looking too much into 2018 WC data i dont think is the right reflection as team was in total chaos. Even there we beat Russia , Italy in friendlies before the Spain bomber. The last European team we played was Germany ( a friendly ) which we drew 2-2. If you take the last decade or so – we have had friendly wins against Germany, Spain, Portugal , Poland, Albania , Switzerland, Sweden, Slovenia, Croatia
Just bcos we have not played enough European countries in last 4-5 years does not mean we will lose to the average countries there. They play easy draws in group stages & qualifiers & most of them are just getting inflated. Keeping France , Belgium , Portugal & maybe England aside – i am confident that we can compete very well with any of the other sides right now. & for Gods sake we will definitely beat the likes of Macedonia , Sweden , Turkey etc…
When was last time Argentina played Europe constantly. We vs them only in WC
I think we need to let loose de Paul I think he has been shackled I think he should play on the left of the midfield three with all the freedom in the world.the other two midfield Players should be more orthodox like pareses and palacios or Guido and palacios this will create more balance and strenghen the left side of our side because It’s weak part of our team. The other thing that is annoying me is the exclusion of Lisandro he is the best defender Argentina have I don’t think scaloni scout his players I think he select his players from the media
Emi, Romero and Nicolas Gonzalez will be our heros in this Copa…!
Messi and Lautaro combination wil be the X factor to win the final.!
Amen to that! All we need is some positive Vibes now…let’s look forward and hope the team changes gear as the tournament progresses..like a well oiled machine, we gonna fight with what we’ve got…C’mon!!
Argentina squad will be based out of the Ezeiza sports center ( in Argentina) for the entire Copa tournament. They will travel in & out of Brazil for every match. While the covid bubble needs to be maintained , doesnt this sound logistically tough on our players ? It looks like venues are 5-8hr+ flights
Thats rough, but they need all the support they can get. Time to support our country & stop complaining like we know more than our coach Scaloni. I think the line up predicted is good. Coach just has to watch out on the substitutions he makes, but at least foyth got dropped.
That’s the biggest mistake. We don’t have a decent right back don’t think montiel can cope up with speedy skillfull players like neymar
Montiel will be fine, foyth was an embarrassment, both plays leading to the goals of chile & colombia, foyth lost the ball stupidly very stupidly!!!!!! U can go play with foyth hes all yours
………………martinez
…quarta..otamendi…tagliafico
………….depaul…paredes
Montiel……lo celso……..gonzalez
………….messi martinez…….
Scaloni is going to start like this.if its molina for montiel and lizandro for tagliafico it would have been better.
Anyway this is not a bad squad at all.i have a gut feeling that they will perform better and should win against chile.
Molina and Lisandro would be better as you suggested.
Also…Quarta too shaky…he has to gain confidence…may be he will grow slowly….
We have to accept the fact that pezzella is not extraordinary either.hope he will do well…
Lots of fireballs here and there, people are not happy with the team, again some people are happy but are missing the deserved players and then some guys have just excitingly predicted the coach’s career and they are already discussing who should take the helm.
All kinds of worldly, extraterrestrial and supernatural activities are going here. I feel it, I definitely feel you guys.
Even I had expectations from this team, from certain players and also guys who I had wanted to see in this team.
But anyways, it’s always best to trust the one who actually does the job.
There’s one thing I want to say before Argentina’s Copa expedition begins today. Remember guys, Argentina had never started any tournament in the best possible ways but they play through roughness and tough luck and then starts growing as they progresses through each and every match. This has been the way with them. They grow and get better as the tournament progresses.
Who would have thought that Argentina would progress to the knockout stages with such poor and awful performances in the previous editon, but they did. And they nearly beat Brazil if not for those minor and crucially criminal activities carried out both by the Brazilian team and their federation.
World cup 2014, 2018 and previous competitions, all are evidences of Argentina’s journeys in tournaments.
I’m keeping my faith and I believe you guys are with me as well. Let’s support whoever is representing us in this jersey.
Vamos vamos……. Argentina 🇦🇷🇦🇷
Any info regarding arturo vidal.. ?? Is he available ? If he and alexis are out.. we have great chance to win comfortably
Vidal is playing
Vidal is such an incredible player. Chile are lucky to have a guy like him
I want to Argentina to be out early than to go deep and kicked out by Brazil so that this idiot Scaloni can be sacked.
Don’t worry scaloni won’t be sacked .. so better argentina perform well and won the tournament. Because I can’t see them doing very good at WC
I want Argentina win this Copa somehow…only hope is some players brilliance..!
Then hire Gallardo…good to go for WC.
Argentina won’t win the WC even if the best Coach in the World manages them
Argentina is really a threat in attack and in midfield yeah in defence Argentina does not have solid player other than C. Romero and Emi Martinez but Emi Martinez made Aston Villa weak defence and defenders better than themselves so I hope same for Argentina if he can transform his defenders in Argentina too.
This should be the playing 11
Emi Martinez
Molina. Pezella. Otamendi. Acuna
De Paul. Paredes. Lo celso
Messi. Aguero. N. Gonzalez
Subs
Lo celso and Guido Rodriguez 60 minute
Aguero and Lautaro 70 minute
N.Gonzalez and J. Correa 70 minute
De Paul and Papu Gomez 70 minute
Pezella?? 😂😂😂😂
Looking back the previous 2 games, are a perfect platform for the Copa. Which should have removed all the rusts of not playing together for some months. Anything less than winning the Copa will be a failure for Scaloni’s tenure who have now got ample time to study each nukes and corner of our NT. And the 11 which he has selected is in fact the best Scaloni can offer in almost all positions apart from the defense.
Anyway Feel sorry for this guy. His iconic career’s only black mark has been the Trophy less international career till now. Please somehow win it this time. By playing defensive or offensive or dirty doesn’t matter at this stage for our NT. We have to win it for Diego Maradona and the Fans.
The truth is, this Argentina midfield is yet to dominate a game. I don’t know what games you guys have been watching but all this we have the ”best midfielders’ and the big teams at the Euro have yet to impress just shows how ignorant some of the posters can be.. This Argentina team would struggle against even Turkey and Macedonia! The overall team is shaky, the defense is bad and the attack is a bygone of yester years. Paredes is a limited footballer from what I have seen from him thus far. Tell me what DePaul has done that is impressive other than running all over the pitch like a mad man?
The lack of coherence in the build up play and poor ball movement on the pitch is so obvious. Once you press this Argentina team, or play the ball over the top, or win the ball high up in their half of the pitch, the players immediately find themselves in trouble. Tone down the hyperbolic comments for once, people here are pretending like the Chile and Colombia game didn’t just happen and all of a sudden these same players, with the same tactics, with the same coach are going to come up with something new at this year’s Copa America. The games against Colombia and Chile were previews for the upcoming Copa America and if that’s the way Argentina is going to play all throughout the tournament then I just don’t see them winning, especially against Brazil in the comfort of their home..
With the shape and condition of this current Argentina national team you’re not beating teams like France, Belgium, Spain, Germany, England, Holland, Italy, Portugal, Croatia, Switzerland, Sweden, Austria, Ukraine, Denmark at a high stake competitive FIFA tournament in 2021. If you notice how the European teams play, they’re not flamboyant most of the time but they’re technically sound, disciplined, strong, organized and tactically well coached.
With all this in mind, is it impossible for Argentina to win the Copa? No, but I just don’t see it happening. Not with this team, not with Scaloni, and not with the local media selecting which player gets in and out. Di Maria had to do rounds in the Argentina local media just to get reselected to the Argentina national team. Who is going to inspire the team? It’s clearly not going to be Messi, he walks too much and is now easily marked out of the game at the international level. The only big game moments will likely come from Di Maria and Aguero which still won’t be enough to win the Copa America. But I would like for Messi, Aguero and Di Maria to win the whole thing then retire afterwards from the international format because Argentina is not winning the world cup anytime soon when they couldn’t even do it in 2006 and 2014.
Well said Kid, this is the truth.
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Unless we get a good tactical coach, we ain’t getting anywhere.
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Messi needs to speak to AFA Tapia, if he dreams of lifting anything. 2022 World Cup is just few months away not years.
Heights of pessimism to say the least. We wouldnt beat Turkey, Macedonia, Ukraine, Sweden , Denmark, Croatia , Austria etc 🤣🤣🤣 is hilarious. Even at our shambolic worst in 2018 we lost to france by a goal . Read any neutral review or even better , see the game!!!! – we drew Colombia game due to 2 bad mistakes , some superb goal keeping by Ospina & wastefulness . There was enough chances created to win the game. Same with Chile game. Fans are disappointed for NT dropping points & with same team / tactics etc we shld have won atleast won one.
Do we have problems ? Yes – our coach is not tactical astute & shaky in some selection decisions . Buts that known by AFA & any fan when he was signed up. It wont change in 2-3 years & we need to live with it. He has erred in slow integration of new players ( read ‘Buendia, Senesi ,Licha ‘ & even Emi Martinez, Romero who should have played atleast half a dozen games by now ) & budging to local pressure. But he has also helped build a good team chemistry & made some smart selections ( Nico Gonzalez from Bundesliga Div 2, Palacios, RDP ) . Scaloni to me is the best transitional coach we cld have had ( looking at our state & AFA coffers in 2018 ) & shld be retained till WC Qatar. The last thing needed now is change & get a Sampoli version2 confusion
The current two WCQ draws is not going to send us to deathbed in Copa & team can fix issues. Take Copa 19 itself – we started pathetically against Colombia & Paraguay. But in next 3 matches against Qatar , Venezuela & Brazil – we peaked well till VARsil defeated us. High time you come out of this Aguero/ DiMaria/ Banega/ Pastore ( haha seriously!! ) halo. A fit Lamela over Dominguez may have some merit in your post . At best Aguero/ Dimaria can impact as super subs. We will have games going into extra time where their experience will be handy & thats exactly why Scaloni has them in squad.
I am hoping you dont disappear post Copa when ur above post will be so funny to read😊
No amit, kid and others in here are right. Argentina is not able to win the likes of North Macedonia, Austria, Switzerland, let alone the so called interstellar, extraterrestrial, supertalented x-factor, x-men, or whatever they like to call them, European super hyper sonic, speed of light European superpowers and the one and only, it’s VAR highness, VARsil! Actually, Argentina will also struggle with the likes of San Marino, Feroe islands, Lichtenstain, well, i will dare to say, that they would have even struggle against the top mundoalbiceleste xi.
I would like to say, with no offense or any itention to attack anyone, that specific comments from specific people have gone beyond any trace of sanity and seriousness here!
I for one, remember that it was the Germans struggling against North Macedonia and the Netherlands against Ukraine yesterday. If Argentina is so bad, how come we are still unbeaten in wcq together with Brazil? How come we have beaten them in the superclassico where they were lucky to escape with just one goal against them? How come they still needed not to use VAR itentionally against us in two occassions in order to beat us?
We may don’t have the best team in the world currently, we may don’t even have the best team is south america either, but no way that i will take comments that highlight idiocy at it’s best seriously, claming that we are not able to beat teams such us North Macedonia, Austria etc.
We may crush in this copa, we may even achieve what is missing from us years now, very difficult i know, but nobody can tell what will happen in the end until it ends and whatever happens, we are Argentina and nobody can take that away from us!
👍👍👍 Vamos . @Waveride – cant agree more.
Wonderfull thought waveride. I wanna add that let those so called European power house to come play South American Qualifying campaign and see how many points they can get. Such a joke to say Argentina can’t beat those team. If Sampaoli wasn’t messed up then we almost had France even our dressing had an civil war going on.
And people here tell you Brazil fan , Colombia fan etc for spraying the facts
@amit
“We wouldnt beat Turkey, Macedonia, Ukraine, Sweden , Denmark, Croatia , Austria etc 🤣🤣🤣 is hilarious.” It’s not hilarious the way Argentina play its more likely.
I disagree on that point @Mrinal. We are unbeaten in last 13 games ( including a win against Brazil , hard fought draws against Germany & Uruguay). We clearly were the better team in the last 3 draws in WCQ – Paraguay, Chlle , Colombia. Yes tactical naivety is there. But to just pointlessly pin down NT & Scaloni is nothing other than a totally unbalanced view. Being No 8 in FIFA ranking doesnt mean we are struggling against Turkey, Macedonia & co. IMO there shouldnt be any coaching change till end of WC 2022. The movement from Martino to Bauza to Sampaoli was disastrous in 2016-18 & in frankness not fair to new coach. Post WC we should move on from Scaloni & aim for Gallardo.
You are just an out right hater man. I never seen you write anything good about Argentina here. All you say bad even we win. You hate Lautaro that explains alot. Either you are AC milan fan or something is wrong with you. If you believe we can’t win with those team then why do you even bother to follow Argentina.
I too think Argentina won’t win it easily against most of the above mentioned team with Scaloni. Not because of lack of technical players..but tactical vulnerability.
Yes we need to get Gallardo else Bielsa. Yes Bielsa failed in 2002 WC…but 20 years passed…Bielsa with Messi will be a Magical team..!
For me… Scaloni’s job was transition. He has done that…now we need a tactical coach….!
Spot on, Kid. European teams are way ahead in terms of tactics, strategy and training facilities. I cannot see us or another SA team win the WC in Qatar. I think most players are very aware of that and know this is their last chance to win a trophy. That mindset could trigger sparks of inspiration that lead to goals. Fingers crossed.
Oye Colombiano! Que estás haciendo aquí?
Now it’s time to stop what happened in the past we can’t change that… Just argentina need to win the Group … Be in top 2. Avoid Brazil till finals… And won that much… Thts best possible thing for messi
brazil most of the attack comes through the vertical crosses most of them from wings.. brazil got speed acceleration.. argentina most weak link.. is its wing-backs .. ocampos can be useful in wing backs position such as team like brazil bcs his defencive work rate too good with some good pace … argentina gonna suffer with team like brazil.. tagliafico and montiel is weak links..
squad would good .. if angileri and ocampos both in squad.. ocampos may lose form but his tall in nature pace,, defensive workrate could be very much handy if he play as wing backs.. i think brazil is favourite to win copa
What would work rate do if he is not clinical upfront. Ocampus is worst. Nico Gonzalez and J. Correa are enough for Argentina
wing backs don’t need to clinical, wing back first attribute should be speed or pace, then defence, then cross, then creative.. yes ocampos is out of form he is not bonding with team or not doing great in link up play, he lost ball vs chile but yet when he lose ball he immadiatly try to win ball back bcs of his strength chile player always feel some pressure.. he is not good in upfront .. but he can be used in wing backs who can defend well and can drag the ball from wings very quickly.. in upfront or front goal link up play is hard bcs thinking on best opportunity of goal but when you drag ball from back link up play is little less hard bcs there is space and it is not infront goal.. ocampos may lose his minds upfront but still whenever he lose ball immadiately he try to win the ball backs .. this could be very much handy for defence… ocampos is horsepower or strengh.. which could be useful in match like brazil
Its time we all stop whining about the starting 11 and the coach and support the team. Whats done is done and the names you see in the list is the Argentina you will get.
Now either you cry or support, the result would be the same.. So I would rather support and hope. And I still have confidence in this team. You are just wasting your time complaining, enjoy the game. You wont get Messi in Copa again.
Vamos Albiceleste.
Thats exactly the point – you might or might not see messi in next copa – so get it right Scaloni..
Even if he had completely new 11 is not an issue – it is calling players who are not fit making it feel even worse..
Calling Ocampos, Foyth – playing them for 2 games and dropping, Alario who was never fit, calling him and taking him out…palacios, lo celso cannot play till the end..this is crazy..
Again not whining, but want to see how far this goes..may be it is not scaloni fault..may be this is AFA or players selecting themselves..i do not know..
Its too late now. Just enjoy the game one at a time mate.
Scaloni may believe this is the team he needs to win with. He is the coach he makes the call.
Argentina midfield is the best midfield of Copa America they will show it. Lautaro Martinez is over rated,Aguero is needed like hell I have seen that with Aguero on the pitch Messi plays better. No doublt Argentina midfield and attack is elite but defence is average. Montiel,Quarta Martinez and Tagliafico are weak link of this Argentina team.C.Romero and Emi Martinez are strong point of this Argentina defence.Otamendi is okay kind of defender but he brings aerial superiority in defence but I miss his electric headers on corners
Netherlands played the 3-5-2 formation well . While they were wasteful & have an avg GK , the wingbacks have pace , ball control & most importantly crosses well . I doubt we have the squad to play 3-5-2 . We should stick to 4-3-3 which is aligned to our strength. We should ensure one full back is attacking ( Acuna or Molina ) & other is more focused on defense ( Tagli or Montiel ) .
Frankly none of the big teams in Euro/ Copa are yet to impress. At best Belgium played well . Most of the rest capitalized on weak opposition & needed multiple chances to convert.
I agree about a 3-5-2 not being a good idea or good for our squad. It is too much to implement before a tournament and while we do have some players that can play in it the continuity of them is not guaranteed as with Romero and his suspensions. It also requires one at least of Otamendi, Pezzella, or Quarta which would guarantee a lineup weakness. Also when licha played in it a lot of goals were conceded and obviously he is the player to implement for Copa with Romero. Two things are settled – that we have a 4 man defense and 3 man midfield with the fixed Lo Celso – Paredes – De Paul. The question is what we do in attack, which dictates if we go narrow or do a wide 4-3-3.
Ever Banega, Pastore and Lamela should have been a part of the Argentina midfield, even if they didn’t start every game. Argentina’s midfield is lacking in class and world class talent. These guys are still at a reasonable age to be still playing for their national team. Modric is 35 and Kroos is 31 so don’t come at me with the ageism argument. It’s hard for me to take this team serious especially Scaloni who didn’t even need to work for the job in order to be the head coach of the Argentina national team, it was just handed to him on a silver platter with no prior experience other than winning some youth tournament in the Canary Island (Spain) where he lost to India. Coaching is not for everyone, Theiry Henry, Lampard, Moyes, Arteta etc. have proven this thesis to be right.
Pastore is rubbish these days. He hasn’t performed well in years.
No clue how Banega is doing but have to assume his quality dropped since his move to poor league.
+1 for Lamela. he should have been called.
Lamela if he fit is better than most of our midfield players… but he wouldn’t last 4 games without getting injured.
Croatia golden generation has aged – Rakitic retired and they have to play Modric..it is different compared to Argentina
But Pastore, Lamela, Banega are injury prone- but I would prefer them as there is no difference between then and current team and there is no creative midfield for Copa – I would at least expected scaloni to make 1 area stronger if not the entire team- I think he is too soft for senior team..
Banega is still in good form, I follow him, no pastore or lamela
Only logical one is Lamela but even he can be a worry with his injuries. He would serve as a good substitute option to tire defenses and add muscle and height. Still we have alright depth with Palacios, Guido, and Dominguez who can be decent if he plays box to box. Not to mention papu although I view him as a Messi back up.
Corrupt and Corona bitch Brazil better fixed the pitch!!
When a coach is confused about emi and armani that team can not win any thing. Scaloni doesn’t understand his team. Dont understand his players.Dont know any style of play. Dont know the strength and weakness of his team. This Argentina defense is shit except Romero
Eddie Nissan post 2002 brazil Argentina record are similar..
The pitch for Ecuador Colombia is completely ripped up and the ball bounces a lot. Hope it is not the same for the stadiums we play in
Yes
It is shocking. Clearly they didn’t care
Ah Brazil the high and mighty power of world football that deserves to host every sporting tournament in the world due to its prowess… the field looks like it held an American rodeo and has large patches of grass that are uneven in height. Total embarrassment. To think Argentina practically built a new stadium to show it off on this tournament and has renovated River’s stadium to have a state of the art pitch and not to mention El Bombonera, the beautiful Cilindro de Avellaneda, and Independiente’s stadium who’s pitch was praised by Gallardo as “champions league quality”. Just a disgrace. I’m sure the only nice part of the field in Brazil is where they keep the VAR
So eddie Nissan kindly give advice..what Argentina need to do?? Argentina jus 10% of Brazil?? really??
Brazil are overrated…they are always lucky in world cup..once they jus don’t have Neymar and Thiago Silva they are hammered 7-1 by Germany..
Last copa also they robbed us by var..
Eddie Nissan see in this Copa Argentina vs Brazil..I will see
I see every Argentina player levelled up his game in recent year but Tagliafico. He is still the same player after so many years no progress at all.He should not be in the team and Scaloni is taking too much time to replace a player. Acuna and Angilleri should be given more chances to prove themselves.
The Argentine team have no talented players at all except Messi. Also, the coach is really a bad coach and Argentine should ashamed to have him as a coach. I wish Messi was born in Brazil, German or Spain he could have won so many National trophies. Look at Brazil, every player is full of talent and Argentine team not even close to 10% of their talent. Look at Columbia, how the coach turn their team to a good team and playing with huge spirit. But, you don’t see that in Argentine team at all. They will get no where with this idiot coach and that is guaranteed.
Agreed 100%!!! I just don’t understand why our guys don’t improve their skills!! One Cuadrado was able to snatch a point from a team that was leading 2-0 in an early stage of the match!!! When I see all those coaches Suckscoloni is a joke!!!
Good job roy nemer starting a pre match and Post match live discussion..
Mr farhad stop your non sense.. after maradona there are plethora of talents in Argentina football team..we reached qf and lost to Netherlands by a brilliant goal by Dennis bergkamp..
2002 was a disaster
2006 is the best chance we had.. penalty wasn’t given for a fall on maxi Rodriguez.. otherwise we would have been playing semi vs Italy..
2010 our team handed to hands of maradona IDK whts the idea of AFA..we fall
2014 we reached final..we deserve to win but hardluck
And you are telling after maradona our team is dead..go out of this blog
Mr Farhad just cannot handle the pressure of losing so I guess he is thinking about taking the easier route by supporting Germany or Brazil so he can join the winning party (Unfortunately, with the support of VAR) Very manly attempt indeed.
Our so called experts think RDP was not playing well while Messi likes him a lot lol……….
Just a thought – in both the Qualifiers – the opponent’s keeper were extraordinary – Bravo or Ospina are no younger..but they were equal match to Messi in those games..
Armani cannot do the Airborne tricks anymore..it had to be younger and capable keeper..
Is Zapata injured ? Even in Argentina game he got subbed at start of 2nd half. Today he is not in starting line up for Colombia.
I feel so bad for this guy I deserved a lot more with this national team
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS TEAM FFS
HOW MANY TALENTED PLAYERS DO WE HAVE?
SO many hustling midfielders and attackers and goalkeepers. But no, you idiot scaloni, you will select Armani, Marchesin. Where is Benitez, Musso, Rulli, Andrada? Even Romero will probably give a better performance than these two dumbasses.
Not only that but dropping our second best player Dyabala? What is wrong with this association man. No hope for this Copa. Maybe we will make it to quarters at best. We will probably lose like 1-0 or 2-1, and Messi will retire. And all this drama will start again. We have one chance and these idiots ruin everything.
Paredes plays a very important role and he has to be consistent every match for Argentina to win..Mental strength is going to be a key tomorrow to beat Chile as we were parking the bus in the qualifiers with most of players cannot play full 90 mins..
soft mentality ,inept coach, unskilled players , cause of fans anger, pain , lack of guts
it is high time Argentina male team should play with french german brazil woman team hahaha, trophyless for 30 years. champion for biggest trophy drought hahaa.
bring more paredes more pazella quarta montiel armani scolani and prove you are male in the name only. all argentine players and fans (except a few like cuti romero
de paul lautaro Gonzalez emiliano ) are real life pussy plastic bullied child mommas’ boys . so all you logical righteous Argentina fans should respect team like PORTUGAL Germany France Brazil ,. DONT HATE THEM COZ THEY ARE BIGGER
BETTER THAN YOUR NEVER GONNA WIN TEAM , BETTER FOLLOW THEM AND THEIR PLAYERS’ .NO MORE PUSSY TEAM .THIS TEAM DIED THE DAY MARADONA STOPPED WEARING THIS SHIRT.
I don’t know what to say to you. There is a Brazilian blog and go there and suck their ass mate. Don’t bother come here and suggest us. Moron
HEY MAN MMH007 PUSSY BOY , CANT TAKE CRITICISM, THATS WHY I SAID A LOT OF PUSSY BOY BULLIED MAMMAS BOY WILL SHOW THEIR ANGER NOW TO PROVE THEY AGREE WITH ME.
IF ARGENTINA DONT WIN THIS COPA , I WILL ARRANGE A PARTY FOR mmhoo7 and similar cheap mentality shortsighted fans to suck ALL Brazilians German french Portugal players dick. don’t worry
try to take criticism and accept it your team is average b grade.
yellow green white all coloured dick sucker #hoo7mm
don’t force me to use slang and better not show pussy mentality
You call Cara rota in my slang bitch. calavera no chilla
If you meet one of us one-day you would see what is real man not like hiding in your Yellow keyboard. Constructive criticism is fine and welcome which other people does here. Don’t disrespect my country man and my country team and fan with your filthy knowledge. Because of people like you Internet is filthy. If you wanna meet and deal with me we can arrange it boy. To bad can’t come to your country for copa. I bet you were hiding in 2014 while we were thriving in your backyard.
Hey u yellow dickhead don’t ever come to post here again with your disrespectfull of shit coming out of your own yellow dumbass that i bet u eat for your meals at every daily basis from morning til’ evening ! That is why we call u yellow banana because u are not only eating your own yellow shit but also u are desperate to get a proper meal which u prefer beg your team to give u a pile yellow shit from every single player or your yellow team, but quess what even they are pissed with u now as it is the same case for the rest of the world so let me ask u a simple question which is how long u think u will live after coming to our teams website where every member respect’s our beloved Albiceleste even they not allways might not agree with each other but we do not behave like u and go posting stuff on the Varzil’s website for it’s members because we do have manner’s here even we might not sometimes agree with eachother’s so how on earth u can be so stupid that u think that one of us can’t find u because u know in todays world with internet yes u can keep on trolling or posting disrespectfully against others for certain time but u must and better understand quick that the more u come to post your shit in this website the more harm u only do to yourself because right now none us really care about what is going to happen to u or how would your life end up so do u understand what i mean or not ? Get a fuck out of here as quick as u can and cross your fingers for rest your life because when someone who really get’s seriously pissed with u and your disrespectfull post’s towards us will definettly find u and in fact it is quite easy thing to do never matter what kind of equipment or protection, VPN or what so ever u are using ! Why? Because cyber Crime has been the biggest Crime allready for at least a decade or even more so if the officals can find the ones who are working seriously on daily basis with cyber Crime and printing virtual money to their several Bank acounts which are supposed to be hidden around the world and i’m not talking about some idiot like u who just come troll and spam our beloved Albiceleste website despite i’m talking about pro con’s and specially organized Crime around the world for example ”sinaloa” or russians, chinese, yakuza etc…and if i have got my facts right there quite a bit several organized Crime group’s around SA so this is nothing new at all to any region of the world in fact it is allready quite old news which in your case is the most scary part because everyone has a family or at least friends or if not at least they have something that they love the most, right?
So now u better stop your actions in this website and pray that god will have mercy Upon u because those groups of organized Crime, gangs or even single person’s who u have pissed off seriously by posting your shit here on this website for such a long time that u will be guaranteed for proper treatment by theese hardcore people who really dont give a shit about human life at all or have any value for it like i did allready mention to u so the situation with u is now that nobody or anyone who’s pissed with what u did wont even claim a fee for your head so what u have done to yourself until now is way beyond anything that could possible save u from this so there escape or exit route for u instead there is only a hell waiting for people like u and it is jus a matter of time for u to end up permantly to be there and once u have reached hell there is just simply no way back from there and that is why it is called a hell! But the worst thing u have is not just for yourself but for also those who really know your true identity and unfortunatly u have dragged with u to stay permantly in hell too! I feel truly sorry for unand people like u who dont understand the consequences of their own actions and to what they lead!
Hey u yellow dickhead don’t ever come to post here again with your disrespectfull of shit coming out of your own yellow dumbass that i bet u eat for your meals at every daily basis from morning til’ evening ! That is why we call u yellow banana because u are not only eating your own yellow shit but also u are desperate to get a proper meal which u prefer beg your team to give u a pile yellow shit from every single player or your yellow team, but quess what even they are pissed with u now as it is the same case for the rest of the world so let me ask u a simple question which is how long u think u will live after coming to our teams website where every member respect’s our beloved Albiceleste even they not allways might not agree with each other but we do not behave like u and go posting stuff on the Varzil’s website for it’s members because we do have manner’s here even we might not sometimes agree with eachother’s so how on earth u can be so stupid that u think that one of us can’t find u because u know in todays world with internet yes u can keep on trolling or posting disrespectfully against others for certain time but u must and better understand quick that the more u come tompost your shit in this website the more harm u only do to yourself because right now none us really care about what is going to happen to u or how would your life end up so do u understand what i mean or not ? Get a fuck out of here as quick as u can and cross your fingers for rest your life because when someone who really get’s seriously pissed with u and disrespectfull post’s towards us will definettly finf u and in fact it is quite easy thing to do never matter what kind of equipment or protection, VPN or what so ever u are using ! Why? Because cyber Crime has been the biggest Crime allready for at least a decade or even more so if the officals can find the ones who are working seriously on daily basis with cyber Crime and printing virtual money to their several Bank acounts which are supposed to be hidden around the world and i’m not talking about some idiot like u who just come troll and spam our beloved Albiceleste website despite i’m talking about pro con’s and specially organized Crime around the world for example ”sinaloa” or russians, chinese, yakuza etc…and i have got my facts right there quite a bit several organized Crime group’s around SA so this is nothing new at all to any region of the world in fact it is allready quite old news which in your case is the most scary part because everyone has a family or at least friends or if not at least they something that they love the most, right?
So now u better stop your actions in this website and pray that god will have mercy Upon u because those groups of organized Crime, gangs or even single person’s who u have pissed off seriously by posting your shit here on this website for such a long time that u will be guaranteed for proper treatment by theese hardcore people who really dont give a shit about human life at all or have any value for it like i did allready mention to u so the situation with u is now that nobody or anyone who’s pissed with what u did wont even claim a fee for your head so what u have done to yourself until now is way beyond anything that could possible save u from this so there escape or exit route for u instead there is only a hell waiting for people like u and it is jus a matter of time for u to end up permantly to be there and once u have reached hell there is just simply no way back from there and that is why it is called a hell! But the worst thing for u have is not just for yourself but for also those who really know your true identity and unfortunatly u have dragged them now with u to stay permantly in hell too! I feel truly sorry for unstable people like u who dont understand the consequences of their own actions and to what they lead!
you are what I call an unhinged person
100% agreed…against Columbia these pussies were just wasting time to finish a game with 1 point!!! Freaking pussies!!
Farhad my friend, You know what?! its actually the opposite. You seems to have no nerve to support this team when the team is losing. Its easy to support a winning team. But it takes guts and nerves to support your team even when they are on turmoil. You are frustrated cos you cant handle it. If you cant handle the pressure you can take the easy way out. But for the strong hearts, Once an Albiceleste always an Albiceleste. Why would I support teams like Germany, Brazil or Whatever when my team is losing. To take an easy route to winning? Who is the pussy?
i salute all the Albiceleste Fans to be man enough to still support Argentina in ups and downs.
Vamos Albiceleste.
Dropping Ocampos just after one bad performance and not including Dybala will cost us. In the last copa 3rd place match, Argentina played brilliantly with Messi, Aguero & Dybala… Inexplicable team selection.
In 98, Passarella excluded Redondo for long hair, In 2002 Bielsa relied on aging Batistuta over lethal Crespo, In 2006- the Julio Cruz substitution, In 2010 Maradona excluded Zanetti and Riquelme. The most sane team choice was in 2014, we went all the way to final. Martino just kept that. We played 3 finals, unfortunately lost all. Then in 2018, the madness of Sampaoli. Now Scaloni repeating the history…
Argentine coaches have brain fade during big tournament. May be Corrupt AFA or media has a detrimental impact.
Vamos Argentina. But, I am not hoping anything this time…
Shaan
Dropping Ocumpas was very good decision. Showed Scaloni doesn’t fear to change or chop. He was out of form and there are players in his position already better then him. I did not like his game personally. He tried to be fancy or cute all the time with ball.
Agree with you @mmh007.
Ocampos’ enegy could have been used if we had 26 year old Messi or Aguero but today we need some quality in the final third which Nico Gonzalez and our both correas can provide specially Nico Gonzalez I’m a huge admirer of him, we didn’t have player like him for a long time. He is willing to make runs behind the defence with some pace and with him we always have 2 guyz in the box.
Yeah
He always willing to take defenders and more direct
I agree mmh007 that dropping Ocampos wasn’t a bad idea and good sign that any underperforming player can get axed. But, this Ocampos saga also highlights the fact that calling him and playing in the first match was an inept decision by the coaching team. The fundamental problem is not Ocampos but decision making by the coaching team.
> In the last copa 3rd place match, Argentina played brilliantly with Messi, Aguero & Dybala… Inexplicable team selection.
Yes, also first few games where we saw Dybala have a positive impact and do really well after so many underperforming games. Instead of capitalizing on Dybala’s new found contribution and a great system, Scaloni tries something else, even dropping him completely. Still pissed, Feel like with Scaloni it’s 5 steps forwards and 7 steps backs sometimes.
Same feeling about him. I had been supporting Scaloni since his early days, but a few recent decisions made by him questioned by support for him. Let’s see how he does in the Copa.
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