Walter KANNEMANN suffered an injury and will miss the Copa America.
Gremio’s KANNEMANN suffered a fracture in the second vertebrae of his spine and will be out for six weeks. This would rule him out of being in Lionel SCALONI’s Argentina team.
Walter Kanemman seis semanas afuera por lesiΓ³n en la segunda vΓ©rtebra de su Columna (fractura).
— HernΓ‘n Castillo (@HernanSCastillo) May 17, 2019
https://www.tycsports.com/nota/boca-juniors/2019/05/19/pavon-cuando-me-lesione-en-la-final-contra-river-empece-a-perder-la-confianza.html
Di maria in right wing is absolutely phenomenal to watch and di maria on left wing is a headless chicken who runs here and there and end up losing possession or getting injured. 1st version is best. Hope scaloni understands this.ππ»
bro
i agree with you
Di maria plays better on the right side.
We need Lo Celso’s goals as well as his playmaking. Hope he is played in an advanced position like in Betis. For all our firepower we have struggled to score goals the last 5 years. Even goals from CBs are welcome. We are not very good at set pieces. Otamendi, Rojo and Federico Fernandez have scored once in a while for us but I wish we had someone like Ayala in the current squad who could pop up and score when the team needed them.
We do have someone like Ayala who can pop up outta nowhere and score an important goal and his name is Mercado!! Personally I would’ve liked to see Ansaldi as Saravia’s backup but I can’t deny that Mercado has been highly reliable for the NT for years now.
Ayala was the one of the overrated defenders of Argentina.
Lo Celso was superb against Real. On another day he would have scored 3 goals. He will be a handful this Copa
He was the architect of both Betis goals, two pre assist. I think this is what Argentina fans want from him most, not His goals . His passing was sublime and that nutmeg back hill against Modric may be a sign that midfield kind of the world is changing soon.
Still lanzini over lo celso…
Lo Celso is a rising star and would be an important player for Copa
And not to forget Rodrigo de Paul as well as another option in the left. Scaloni has a selection headache
Agree with Little Reus. ADM at the right flank has been a revelation. Can cut inside to his favoured left foot. He has scored more goals than anyone else in Europe from outside the box this year. Our left sided attacking options are superb with J Correa, Pity and R Pereyra all capable or turning the game. I think mundo bros have been a little uncharitable to Pity. New country, new league takes some getting used to. I see him improving every game
I will keep my playing 11 choice within the 40prelim players.
Either 4-4-2
Ruilli
Saravia-Otamendi-Pezella-Tagliafico
Pererya – Palacios – LoCelso-DePaul
Messi- Ageuro
mid match subs can be – DiMaria ( for prerya ) ; Guido for Palacios ; ACorrea for Aguero.
or 4-2-3-1
Ruilli
Saravia-Otamendi-Pezella-Tagliafico
Palacios – Guido
Messi – LoCelso- DePaul
Aguero
Subs – Parades for Palacios ; ACorrea for DePaul or LoCelso ( in that case Messi plays false9 ) ;
I like the 4-2-3-1 where LoCelso can play more advanced with Messi & there is a double pivot behind for stability
Messi should be at the center in 4-2-3-1. If at RW, it should be in 4-3-3.
Does anyone know what the rumored squad is
D maria need to play in right wing messi as a false 9…BT who is better nacho or gaston gimenez or guido?
I think batista is doing good job right now. If our under 20 team does well then they should promoted to the national team for copa 2020 and qualifiers afterwards.ππ»
He should bring that damn trophy back to Argentina! The 7th star!
My dream team
#######Romero
Montiel#Otamendi#Barbosa#L Martinez
#########Foyth
###lo celso####J Correa
Messi###########di maria
#####Aguero/Alario
Our MVP for the upcoming Copa as per the current world class club form is??? Angel Di Maria…Our secret weapon.
WHOLLY MOTHER OF JESUS
i personally think ADM will play well in this copa
We shall see that. Hope this is the last tournament for him and he delivers a great swan song.
Although Chances are less.
Anyone thought he would be more useful on the right flank and roam with Messi?
El Fideo on the left flank is a headless chicken as he tends to run with the ball wide and deep, where his poor decision making takes over, and it ends up with poor crosses or losing the possession.
In Argentina if anyone who is headless chicken is none other than Scaloni, he is clueless about what is he doing so this idiot may play A di maria at LW again.
My dream squad for copa 19 was always
4-2-1-3.
Rulli
Saravi Otamendi Pezella Tagliafico
Ascacibar Lo celso
Messi
A dimaria Aguero Pavon
Agreed on Di Maria position, but I think your formation is too unbalanced. Lo Celso is no more a box to box, he’s a 10 now. We need 1 destroyer and 1 versatile CM, or a pivot who can go forward. Guido/Battaglia + Palacios/Nacho/DePaul are my choice. Lo Celso in front of the DM/CM and Messi behind Aguero
on Saturday our U20 team begin our effort in world cup in Poland against South Africa.
really i can t wait to see the team play.
we are in hard group but i believe we can do something good in this world cup.
VAMOS ARGENTINA
I think Argentina should bring on a philosophy like Ajax..invest on youth..and i think Menotti and Aimar should focus more..
We need to get back Bielsa in some major european league..
bielsa bielsa bielsa ?? whats he ever won with his tactics ? hardly anything !
Bielsa is overrated bro..
Yea, very overrated . Never like it when media claim how this or that manager came from “school of Bielsa” . Bielsa has very small collection of silverware , not sure how he’s being reffered alot by journalists.
However, he did won Argentina their first Olympic, winning all games I think without even conceiding a goal. Still overrated overall compare to way he’s potrayed by media.
You’re just highlighting silverware when everyone knows that’s not the reason for his reverance. Among many others, both Guardiola and poch have openly highlighted Bielsas influence in their style. Same with Sampa. Not sure why that bothers you..
we are not a club to be able do that. we are national team. is not same.
as about Bielsa should i remind you who was our coach in 2002 world cup?
if you was small age in 2002 then i can understand you.
yes i remember well 2002 ..brazil won the world cup ..we got knocked out first round with bielsa !
I gave up being a diehard supporter after arg was knocked out in 2002. Going for a tournament as favourites to win it only to be knocked out in round one.
@petro ajax is the perfect example of combination of young and energetic players with experience
In CB De ligt with Blind
Midfield Schone with De jong
Forward Zyech with Tadic.
The main reason ajax played semifinal was Tadic without him there would be no use of playing young players.
And we can see what happened in with argentina in WC 2010 with young squad and all of them were 5 times more talanted than our present young players.
IMHO, 2010 was the most talented young squad. Problems were:
– Diego’s ego caused wrong selection. I didn’t mind including Palermo but leaving Cambiasso and Zanetti out were criminal.
– Riquelme’s ego. After the deadly combination with the younger generation in Olympic 2008, all of the suddens, he retired from the NT. What the heck!
– Poor tactical decision. Diego’s illustrative tactics were simply outplayed by Loew.
If it was just me, we would have won it, lol
—————Romero—————
Zanetti-Samuel-Demichelis-Heinze
————-Mascherano————-
——–Cambiasso-Riquelme——–
—————-Messi—————–
———–Tevez-Higuain————
On the bench: Di Maria, Aguero, Diego Milito, Gaby Milito, Gago, Banega, Maxi Rodriguez, Pastore, Otamendi
How deadly would it have been!
Oh nooooo………. So, in my opinion, he should be replaced by Funes Mori.
My Dream Team :
GK : 1. Armani 2. Marchesin 3. Andrada
RB : 1. Saravia 2. Mercado
RCB : 1. Pezzella 2. Sigali
LCB : 1. Otamendi 2. Funes Mori
LB : 1. Tagliafico 2. Acuna
DM : 1. Guido 2. Marcone
RCM : 1. Paredes 2. Lanzini
LCM : 1. Lo Celso 2. Pereyra
RCF : 1. Messi 2. Dybala
ST : 1. Aguero 2. Icardi
LCF : 1. Di Maria 2. De Paul
Yeahhhβ¦. Vamos Argentina! Go Tango! Be the winner! Be the champion!
God bless everyoneβ¦..
You think funes mori is not good enough yet you still keep those shitty 30+ year goal keepers?
Thanks for your respond, El Masche… It’s an honour for me, El Masche…
God bless you, El Masche..
God bless everyone…
Lo Celso on fire!
Such a classy player, his touches, passes will remind you Messi. His development will be the key for Argentina’s success in next decade. Will love him to play under those coaches who can develop ball players, coaches like Bielsa, Pep or pochettino.
With him developing more into a 10 than a 8, I think we should play Messi as No 9, in 2020 and 2022.
Di maria has become best longshot scorer in the world. His shooting accuracy is something else scaloni should play him at RW , playing him at LW is a waste.
So far none of the younger generations play better than him in his position this year. So yes, he should be here.
Can you tell what is DiMaria’s Position in PSG? and for NT?
He is good player; No doubt about that; But only for his club; Not for NT; For NT he plays only 1 good match out of 5;
Because he is cheered everytime not cursed and given death threats everytime he plays for NT. And this is the case for all players not only for di maria , tell me an argentine player who plays better for NT than club , yes mascherano was the exception. So we will have to change our attitude towards our player to get take their full adavantage.
Romero, Biglia until Copa 2016, Zabaleta, Augusto, Garay, Lavezzi; There are other players who performed well but hardly they do get more chances;
Lavezzi & Gaitan performed better than Dimaria in the limited chances they got for NT;
Mascherano played equally for club and country.
Exactly! His cutting inside and long range tornado from the right wing remind me Robben at his best.
Regardless of if we like Mercado or not I think he will be selected (I hate Mercado personally). Scaloni is going for 2 LB (Tagliafico and Acuna), 3 CB (Otamendi, Pezzela, Funes Mori) and 2 RB (Saravia and Mercado). Now, the reason I think Scaloni will select Mercado because he can be backup for both roles of RB and CB. He can backup Saravia in RB and also can be a option in CB roles.
Ansaldi should hlave been selected over mercado.
We can debate all day on who can be selected and who will be a better option. But I am giving here Scaloni’ point of view why he will choose Mercado. Ansaldi is a good option for RB or LB. But he won’t be able to backup the position for CB. Scaloni will be selecting 3CBs so he will be selecting someone who can backup both RB and CB position. As I said I hate Mercado coz he is useless, but I think the coach will select him. Just trying to predict.
You are right mate he offers much more than mercado. Lb,rb,cb,wb. He is also of same age as mercado i.e 32. So why not go for better player like him who can defend as well as attack. I don’t like mercado. He is not pacey and neither athletic and can’t defend to. Game against Venezuela proved this. Alas but sampa 2.O will select him over ansanladi ππ
I totally agree with you bro. I too personally think Mercado’ time is up. He is very slow and technically weak and unstable. Can’t trust the defence with him. But Scaloni is selecting him over and over again in the friendlies and Ansaldi is far in his radar. So judging by Scaloni’ team selection trend I think Mercado will be there.
Even funes mori is better than meracdo in respect of athleticism π€·ββοΈ
I think someone young like saravia or montiel would be best, but our opinion doesnβt matterπ.
Yes sampa 2.O doesn’t read mundo sadly. Alasππ‘
I think this is the final team that Scaloni will select for Copa:
GK: Armani, Andrada, Musso (I hope Scaloni chooses him over Merchesin)
DEF: Pezzela, Otamendi, Funes Mori (we will miss kanneman), Saravia, Mercado, Tagliafico, Acuna
MID: Paredes, Guido, Lo Celso, Palacios, Pereyra, De Paul, Zaracho (If he is not fit then Lanzini will get selected)
FD: Messi, Aguero, Dybala, Lautaro, Correa, Di Maria
Dimaria will be selected as midfielder and Foyth should be selected ahead of Mori
What does it matter if Di Maria’ name is in the Midfielder section or Forward section!!!! The point is he will be there in the final list.
And Foyth over Mori.. well tell that to Scaloni. I am not the coach, I m just trying to predict what the coach will do.
If Dimaria selected as Midfielder then there is chance to add another forward and Foyth performed better than Mori under scaloni, Foyth was given 2 MOTM award that’s why i assuming Foyth is picked and between Rulli and Musso one will be selected ahead of maschrin
This is not a bad team (Personally I would make a few changes) but we need coherence and rhythm among the players to succeed. Players like Pezzela, Tag, Lo Celso, Palacios and Correa should step up for the NT coz I think our players lack that motivation, grit and fire for the NT. And for God’ sake, Mr. Scaloni plz finalize the suitable formation, develop a style of play and get Ur tactics right, else the team will suffer again, no matter how good Ur players are.
Mercado is not tall enough for CB and too slow as RB. Only helpful in a defense of 3 which is not going to happen
Garay can be called as backup???
Everyplayer needs to be given enough chances to prove themselves.
Considering most of the previous generation has given ample chances to show what they can bring to the table. Same rule should be applied now too.
How many matches has Paredes, Icardi, Dybala etc etc has started for us? Less than 5.that itself is the answer.
You right pal that should applies
the new generation
We must give them chance but
If they re not performing well
We should move to the inform players
As Argentina always has top players
Available we shouldn’t repeat the
Same mistake like before because
The last generation overstayed
Fw : Alario ,Aguero ,Colidio
Are you a idiot alario, colidio is not ready for nt
colidio is going to be the future no9 and next big thing
You gotta be kidding us. That guy is no special. He is not even in U20. Gaich is much better.
Lucas alario hat tricks
Coaches like funes mori coz is fast,tall and athletic and he is regaining his form back for Villarreal. So i don’t mind taking him as 3rd cb for copaπ
What a pass from Parades. Beautiful defense splitting pass. Nice finish aswell
Mbappe is headless chicken. Run and run. He will be no better than Henry, let alone as good as CR7. His best weapon is his pace that unfortunately was extremely useful against our slow and old defense. Against more physical and disciplined sides, he would be just a good player, not as superb as he was against us
Tigre which eliminated Racing and Atletico Tucuman (eliminated River) playing semi. Such a shame Lucass Menossi finally was not picked to be one of over 23 players in our team for Panamerican Games (instead of Mascherano). No doubt one of best No.5 in league for years.
BTW his today’s goal shows the people that are not following Argentina clubs anyway but throws a lot of shit in last days about how much the local football is chaotic and ugly to watch (hence not worth of call ups) should not decept theirselves that they know the local football. Really a lot of exagerration and prejudice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_3EIIqDRh0
the setup was excellent….. <3
Tigre is one of 3 best teams currently in Argentina. Great win 5:0 against Atletico Tucuman.
All the Tigre goals are team football. Most incredible: Tigre is RELEGATED team and next season will play in second league while they are close to qualify to COpa Libertadores 2020 thanks to this Copa de La Superliga. Second division and CL at the same time?
Good sharing gonzalo..we lack knowledge about how good local player..
PSG – Dijon 4:0
– Since PSG is considered a 1 player team (Paredes) in here and loses and draws are blamed on Paredes then we must apply the same standard and credit the wins to him, too.
– Selection of the team: I hope Pezzella recovers and Foyth, Dybala make it.
I don’t like Mercado, and Matias Suarez, and hope Funes Mori is discarded.
I also hope Andrada starts.
I am not going to complain though and support whoever represents and plays for the team.
– I think Scaloni plans to play 4-4-2.
Oh if you read the french news you’d think that Paredes is the cause for the common cold!!! Everything bad that happens to PSG is because of him, but atleast that 47 mill they spent on him isn’t going to waste since now they have a convenient scapegoat.
Leandro is hella talented but he’s not a no.5 and was never meant to be but he is more than capable of pushing himself physically as we saw in the Brazil game where he, Celso and Battaglia ran their butts off, Argentina needs THAT Paredes in copa.
of course, football is a team sport.
I also agree that he is not a 5 and also should not play with a slow 5, needs a runner next to him. Let’s see how he fairs next season because making the move in winter is bad-timing.
Against Dijon a relegated team in farmer league.
angry little boy
chilll.
No he is a 5, but more as a regista like Pjanic and Jorginho who need 2 powerful and defensive box to box next to him. I simply don’t like this kind of midfielder, you got to play in 433 and others run for him. I don’t think Paredes is as talented as Pirlo and Xabi Alonso to make the team do so much sacrifice. He will be happier in a small club
thanks for being blunt and saying that you don’t like this kinda midfielder.
C.royal in case if you don’t know pirlo
Wasn’t that good either when he was
Same age as paredes so there still
Time mate for alonso case he was
Lucky he had mascherano who made Him looked so good plus he played Spanish nt who had dominated possessions
It’s way to early to be so critical the play Who is just settling new club moving Mid season is the most difficult in football .In all honesty 10 caps he played for nt He did more than alright.
Well a Regista is not a 5 technically, it’s a deep lying playmaker (think an enganche but deeper in the midfield).
I still believe in Leandro, he’s had a rough time in PSG and to be honest I was never happy seeing him go to such a club but I believe he has the skill and mentality to make it in the big leagues. Hopefully he can do well in copa and get his confidence back.
Our U-20 boys beat Honduras 3:1. Goals of Alvarez, Ferreira and Almendra.
Manuel Roffo, Marcelo Weigandt, NehuΓ©n PΓ©rez, Facundo Medina, Francisco Ortega, Fausto Vera, Santiago Sosa, Cristian Ferreira, Ezequiel Barco, JuliΓ‘n Γlvarez, Pedro De La Vega.
Ferreira has scored another golazo:
https://argentina.as.com/argentina/2019/05/18/futbol/1558188826_782591.html
Aguera
Di maria lo celso Messi
Guido paredes
Tagliafico pezzela otamendi Mercado
Put Palacios in place of Paredes and Saravia instead of Mercado then it will be perfect.
Lucas alario hat trick
Can we for once get a break? JUST ONCE!!
Off topic (1): Considering the fact that we have not Alario in our Squad list for Copa, he did a hat-trick for Leverkusen and becomes the first Argentinian to ever scored 3 goals in German Bundesliga! I wouldn’t mind if he gets called up if injury happens to anyone.
Off topic (2): Just like the first topic, as Walter Kannerman is injured and won’t able to play Copa19, why we are not considering E.Garay’s return to NT? In my opinion, Garay is still the best defender Argentina have. Even as a backup, Garay will add some leadership and calmness to our defense.
C Romero deserve more than anyone but scaloni will not try new names in copa, He will be picked who already part of his squad before.
Most Probable 23rd squad:
Gk: Armani, Andrada, Rulli/Musso
DF: Tagliafico, Acuna, Foyth, Pazella, otamendi, marcado, saravia
MF: Paredes, Lo Celso, Gluido, Palacios, De Paul, Pareyra, Dimaria and Meza
FW: Messi, Aguero, A Corera, Lautaro, Dybala, Suarez
I think the 3rd goalie is marchesin and take out meza and instead of foyth there will be mori. Then this will be the most probable squad
Meza will be selected because of zaracho injury and scaloni love meza and both will be the roommate in copa america. Musso/rulli will be picked ahead of maschrin and F.mori will not be selected.
Why would scaloni select meza if he wasn’t even on the first 32
You didn’t understand point of romance what was he trying to sayπ
this is 24 players list bro
@Csabalala 24 because of meza and scaloni love saga
You are funny bro.π do you watch kapil sharma show??
Mrinal, special or not Pereyra is a very useful player for our team. He is very physical and fast, he runs all the time and he has skills. He had a good season indeed and is one of Wattford’s best players.
Kannemann’s injury is a big loss. This guy has all the prospects to be a world class defender and he reminds me the grit that our fefenders used to have in the past. I really like this guy but i guess that the injury circus has already started!
to be a world class defender ? ermm he is 28 ..not 19 !
Ayala didn’t become a legit world class defender until 27yrs so it’s quite possible for Kannemann to make an impact on the world stage.
good to hear it ..everyone calm (our defense will be world class in there late 40’s)
Pereyra in 2019:
Goals -0
Assist – 0
Chances created -2
Key passes -2
Recoveries -17
May be a good year for pereyra.
Ame, sometimes defenders are getting better like good old wine. A defender still can be world class at an age of 34, there are numrous examples of this and yes the guy still has time to be world class.
Mrinal, i have to admit that you are pretty good in both being sarcastic as well as in depending on stats but let me give you an advise, if want think about it if you don’t throw it out of the window: Sometimes stats don’t say the whole story. You should also watch how a player is playing, his positioning his overall contribute to the team, his attributtes, his skills, his decision making and taking also into account how his teammates are also paying and the state that his team is too, instead of depending only on numbers especially when wattford was not that good.
And speaking about numbers, the current season does not include 2019 only if i am not mistaken.
He was not bad in first half of the season but now he is out of form.
My line up for copa
Kun-messi
Depaul-lo celso-dimaria/pity/nacho
Paredes
Tagi/acuna-otamendi-pezzla/mori-saravia
Adaranda
TBH i still don’t understand why pareyra is considered a good player i have never seen anything special in him.
still better than Ignazio Fernandez, he is at least physical, Nacho like a skeleton cant take contacts
See this the problem mate
Pereyra has been good whole the
Season no shame on having off day
Against man city I’m sure if you were following
The premier league whole season
You won’t say that against him
Pereyra is very useful player can play
Different positions
Can someone tell me what the rumored squad as of right now is for Argentina at Copa America?
From the very beginning I told that de Paul is must starter..he performed well and consistently… In my opinion de Paul must be starter….de paul-lanzini-paredes-celso would be the midfield..
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Foyth should be selected ahead of F.Mori, both Foyth and Romero will be the main CB in 2022 WC and Foyth should be given big tournament experience with NT, this season Foyth already got Champion league experience as well as in Final.
Don’t forget Leandro Balerdi…!
Competition for CBs is a big hope for Argentina.
Nuhuan perez as well broπ
Yes. We can’t predict future CB right now. So many options.
De Paul is hardworking player, If messi aguero are there then Agentina don’t need show model anymore, De Paul is must no matter one of Dybala/icardi selected or not.
Agree with you SRK Fanboyπ
And you’re Higuain fan boy, please don’t disrespect Goat kindly change your name.
De Paul was really good today, man of the match performance. Should start on the left for us.
It’s a big loss.
But don’t forget Otamendi and Mori had a good partnership before…!
I am confident Otamendi-Pazella, Otamendi-Mori, Pazella-Mori will work for Argentina. I suspect Mercado currently. I wish Foyth gets chance ahead of Mercado..!
Foyth isn’t ready yet
Funes Mori was a decent player but since he got injured he looses confidence. A second season with villareal may really help him. Guys I think to preverse the immense talent of Foyth, he should be playing as a 5. I haven’t seen a talent like that since Diego Milito. When you are that talented in a league like premiership where mistakes are deadly Its difficult for him to be confident and show his talent. If he plays in the middle he would be able to express himself better
Foyth should ahead of funes mori
You may say foyth is not ready but
The kid play UEFA champions league
And performed well plus he is much
Talent than mori trust me mori Is
Suicidal he is no way near nt player
He is mistake carrier.
UCL football? he played 100 minutes overall, every Spurs CB are over him in pecking order
Still better option than both
Mori and mecardo
I personally have no confidence in Funes Mori. He’s not a world class defender by any stretch of imagination, not even a half decent player.
Mori is good
hoping to see Mori shine like he did with Otamendi in Copa. not sure about todays mori but few years ago, he was amazing.
He doesn’t need to be world class. All he has to do is repeat what he has done in last Copa. He was solid CB for us. Otamendi-Mori was scary due for opposition CF. But injury and Everton move was bad for him. Since he has plenty playing time in Villarreal I hope he gets back his Mojo.
De Paul with hattrick of assists…today.
At least now will Scaloni give Mammana a chance?
WTF? the guy is a bench-warmer in Zenit
Depaul with 3 assists in 1st half. Has to be in final 23. We need a player like him to shoulder the responsibility of playmaking along with messi from the left side and he can very well do it. He is also better defensively than dybala. Nacho and DePaul should be in final 23.π
Agree, DePaul should start.
……….. Kun…………….
……………..Messi…….
Depaul….locelso…perreira
…………….paredes……………
Four defensively conservative players to balance paredes non destroyer position (a la pirlo) and the random deep run of tagalfico, like messi does with Alba.
The team has plenty of talent. Youth. A smart coach that keeps the lines close and tight, sits deep and counters with messi and kun can beat amyone. Our 4 midfield players need to run and hustle 90mins. Lamela, dimaria, etc we have a deep bench that can.
this is the most balanced and probably best lineup I have seen on here
Leandro I like your line up but paredes as the 5 is very, VERY unwise, sub him for Guido or Marcone or whomever is selected as the 5 and you have something there.
Taking the current form I’d like to see De Paul and Nacho too. The assists however are from corners and freekicks.
Yeah today but I have watched him after Feb this season and he is fantastic creatively, his passing is nice, long passes are awesome can change ball to other flanks accurately , atleast good than di Maria defensively on left Flank. Mark my words he will move to a good club next season
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